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  • Th3_uN1Qu3
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    • Jul 2010
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    #1

    Techs Only - Favorite laptop brand (servicing/construction)?

    Just wanted to know your fellow techs' opinions on the favorite laptop brand. I'm mainly talking about ease of use/build quality/ease of servicing. While i have a soft spot for several HP models, my vote goes for Dell for most straightforward design 90% of the time.

    On the last place for me would be Asus... some Asus laptop designs and boards are just like their desktop counterparts - #@*%ing retarded.

    I'd like to know your opinion too.
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    Originally posted by PeteS in CA
    Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
    A working TV? How boring!
  • shovenose
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    • Aug 2010
    • 6575
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    #2
    Re: Techs Only - Favorite laptop brand (servicing/construction)?

    Dell! Some lenovos as well but Dells are the best to work on some are just plain stupid they put HDD under mobo so you have to take the whole thing apart!

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    • Pentium4
      CapXon Be Gone
      • Sep 2011
      • 3741
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Techs Only - Favorite laptop brand (servicing/construction)?

      Dell 100%
      HP/Compaq shouldn't even be an option

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      • goontron
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        #4
        Re: Techs Only - Favorite laptop brand (servicing/construction)?

        Dell. Dell. Dell. Dell.
        Idk P4, my Compaq is really nice to work on once you replace that crippled BIOS and....... Maybe not.
        Last edited by goontron; 09-11-2014, 04:00 PM.
        Things I've fixed: anything from semis to crappy Chinese $2 radios, and now an IoT Dildo....

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        You must have a sad, sad boring life if you hate on people harmlessly enjoying life with an animal costume.

        Sometimes you need to break shit to fix it.... Thats why my lawnmower doesn't have a deadman switch or engine brake anymore

        Follow the white rabbit.

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        • SteveNielsen
          Retired Tech
          • Jun 2012
          • 2327
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          #5
          Re: Techs Only - Favorite laptop brand (servicing/construction)?

          I've got to vote for Dell too. They are put together with at least a little thought and built pretty well.

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          • c_hegge
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            • Sep 2009
            • 5219
            • Australia

            #6
            Re: Techs Only - Favorite laptop brand (servicing/construction)?

            I've had good and bad experiences with all of them. I had to fix a Dell recently where there was absolutely no access panels at all on the bottom. To top it off, the HDD was under the motherboard, meaning that you had to take the board out to replace the HDD. That one is by far the hardest to work on ever - worse than any HP or ASUS I've ever seen.
            I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

            No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

            Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

            Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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            • Th3_uN1Qu3
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              #7
              Re: Techs Only - Favorite laptop brand (servicing/construction)?

              Originally posted by c_hegge
              To top it off, the HDD was under the motherboard, meaning that you had to take the board out to replace the HDD. That one is by far the hardest to work on ever
              I've worked on a few of those as well. Even so, the way they come apart and get put back together is still a breeze. I've found that with Dells, once you've worked on one or two of that particular model, you can take the laptop apart in less than 10 minutes and put it back together in less than 15 minutes.

              What i find superior with Dell laptops compared to other brands:
              • All the cable slots are nicely routed. The cables basically route themselves when you put the thing back together.
              • The keyboards go back in place without bending or bloating. *cough* Acer *cough*
              • Solid plastic clips that don't break as soon as you take it apart.
              Originally posted by PeteS in CA
              Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
              A working TV? How boring!

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              • SteveNielsen
                Retired Tech
                • Jun 2012
                • 2327
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Techs Only - Favorite laptop brand (servicing/construction)?

                Finding servicing info isn't difficult either.

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                • Th3_uN1Qu3
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                  #9
                  Re: Techs Only - Favorite laptop brand (servicing/construction)?

                  I forgot about Lenovo there. I can't edit the poll anymore, but i'll have that fixed ASAP.

                  I probably forgot about them, since all Thinkpads are a bitch to get the mainboard out, and the newer Ideapads are just like other brands (except dell and no i'm not biased).
                  Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                  Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
                  A working TV? How boring!

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                  • kaboom
                    "Oh, Grouchy!"
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 2507
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Techs Only - Favorite laptop brand (servicing/construction)?

                    Not that I work on them much lately, but I'd also pick Dell. "Real" Compaqs (LTE5000) weren't too bad either.

                    Originally posted by goontron
                    my Compaq is really nice to work on once you replace that crippled BIOS and....... Maybe not.
                    That's because it's from before the "woman in a mansuit" era...

                    Who takes "hp" even remotely seriously?


                    I've found it very easy to "service" dv-whatevers after the BGAs finally let loose. Cut them into thirds with a sawzall, and throw them away. Mid '90s "Packard Hells" get more respect from me.
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                    EOL it...
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                    All style and no substance.
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                    guilty,guilty,guilty,guilty!
                    guilty of being cheap-made!

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                    • Th3_uN1Qu3
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                      #11
                      Re: Techs Only - Favorite laptop brand (servicing/construction)?

                      I wouldn't exactly cut thru DVs with a saw, there's still money to be made. It was mostly nvidia's fault anyway... Actually, my main laptop is currently a fully upgraded DV9000 series, and i've got enough parts to build two more...

                      HP did/does have some seriously badly built series though. The whole TX line, DVx with AMD/nvidia, HP 625, G62 and some Probooks come to mind. Dell had a few bad ones too, particularly when it came to fan management, but they still made that up in other areas of the build. Plus, there are fan control utilities for Dell and Lenovo that do not exist for other brands.
                      Last edited by Th3_uN1Qu3; 09-11-2014, 05:24 PM.
                      Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                      Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
                      A working TV? How boring!

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                      • goontron
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                        #12
                        Re: Techs Only - Favorite laptop brand (servicing/construction)?

                        Originally posted by kaboom
                        Not that I work on them much lately, but I'd also pick Dell. "Real" Compaqs (LTE5000) weren't too bad either.



                        That's because it's from before the "woman in a mansuit" era...
                        snip>
                        its part of the presario line from 2011.
                        Last edited by goontron; 09-11-2014, 05:34 PM.
                        Things I've fixed: anything from semis to crappy Chinese $2 radios, and now an IoT Dildo....

                        "Dude, this is Wyoming, i hopped on and sent 'er. No fucking around." -- Me

                        Excuse me while i do something dangerous


                        You must have a sad, sad boring life if you hate on people harmlessly enjoying life with an animal costume.

                        Sometimes you need to break shit to fix it.... Thats why my lawnmower doesn't have a deadman switch or engine brake anymore

                        Follow the white rabbit.

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                        • diif
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 6978
                          • England

                          #13
                          Re: Techs Only - Favorite laptop brand (servicing/construction)?

                          I vote Dell too, apart from some of the cheaper Vostros they are well built and very easy to strip and repair.
                          They tend to find they work their screws loose easily, at my last place they were loose and falling out all the time (400+)
                          Their E5500 had a design flaw with their hinge and the Vostro 3550 or 3555 had issues with the trackpad jumping all over the place.

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                          • eccerr0r
                            Solder Sloth
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 8701
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Techs Only - Favorite laptop brand (servicing/construction)?

                            Can't really make a call based on the limited number of laptops I've worked with as I'm not a technician, just an enthusiast:

                            Most of the plastic cased laptops with plastic tabs that hold the pieces together along with secret screws are the miserable ones...

                            Dell Inspiron 600M - Hell, and horrible thermal management of GPU
                            Gateway Solo 5350 - Hell, and horrible power management
                            HP Omnibook 600CT - Never tried opening yet.
                            HP Omnibook 6000 - Hell
                            HP Pavillion DV4000 - Hell
                            IBM Thinkpad T42P - never tried opening, metal case, and had GPU thermal problems causing solder failure
                            Toshiba 200CDS - Hell
                            Toshiba T4600C - Double Hell - flimsy cables.
                            Sony P4 laptop dunno what model - Hell
                            Asus eeePC 900A - Hell
                            HP Envy 4t - Woah... remove back panel with obvious screws, no secret keyboard screws, and everything is out in the open?
                            HP Elitebook 8560W - oh my, an easy access back panel??? (metal case)
                            Last edited by eccerr0r; 09-11-2014, 05:54 PM.

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                            • c_hegge
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                              • Sep 2009
                              • 5219
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                              #15
                              Re: Techs Only - Favorite laptop brand (servicing/construction)?

                              I have added Lenovo and Sony to the poll now
                              I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                              No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

                              Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

                              Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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                              • magneh
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                                • Apr 2014
                                • 596
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                                #16
                                Re: Techs Only - Favorite laptop brand (servicing/construction)?

                                Yo Guys,

                                I've just about 6 months of experience dedicated to repairing, but I've serviced a few so I can give m 2 cents

                                Asus and Acer ... every laptop is a mess servicing
                                HP a little better but some older models are a pain in the a$%

                                Little bit weird nobody refered them, but they are the only brand where I have 100% success (5 laptops repaired sucessfully) it's ... Apple

                                Best boards I've worked on ... build quality excellent still I don't like those sensible ribbons, but we cant have everything right.

                                My vote goes to Apple. Bought one Macpro 2011 13' with no image and put it working in 1 hour and one simple reflow. 5 months ago.

                                Love servicing those machines.

                                My 2 cents, but I'm not the most experienced tech.

                                Cheers!

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                                • c_hegge
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                                  • Sep 2009
                                  • 5219
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Techs Only - Favorite laptop brand (servicing/construction)?

                                  Macbooks are by far the worst if you have to replace the screen. They glue true screen assembly together rather than using screws or clips, so it's very difficult to get apart without damaging it.
                                  I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                                  No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

                                  Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

                                  Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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                                  • Th3_uN1Qu3
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Techs Only - Favorite laptop brand (servicing/construction)?

                                    I've also forgotten about Fujitsu-Siemens...

                                    About Apple, i disagree. Not having any kind of silkscreen on the board is nuts.
                                    Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                                    Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
                                    A working TV? How boring!

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                                    • magneh
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                                      • Apr 2014
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Techs Only - Favorite laptop brand (servicing/construction)?

                                      Originally posted by c_hegge
                                      Macbooks are by far the worst if you have to replace the screen. They glue true screen assembly together rather than using screws or clips, so it's very difficult to get apart without damaging it.
                                      Never changed a screen of a Macbook. Apple loves to glue screens. Iphones are the same thing.

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                                      • highpulse
                                        i hate HP
                                        • May 2013
                                        • 1488
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Techs Only - Favorite laptop brand (servicing/construction)?

                                        about construction and details 100% for apple design , this is state of the art construction , about reliability well i guess it also depend how people use the machine

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