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  • grahamw01
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    #181
    Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

    the chip I mean is U6, the main one

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    • opamp
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      #182
      Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

      Can you make a list of what you changed? or what you moved around? that would help a lot when trying to diagnose what you messed up.

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      • grahamw01
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        #183
        Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

        Originally posted by opamp
        Can you make a list of what you changed? or what you moved around? that would help a lot when trying to diagnose what you messed up.
        yes, PQ13, PQ15, PU11, PQ10, PQ3.. I think!

        Thanks

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        • opamp
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          #184
          Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

          This is the old board, right?

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          • Tuomo
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            #185
            Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

            Originally posted by grahamw01
            remember i said before with the old board, when the battery is inserted with the power cable and the power button is pressed, the chipset gets very hot very quick, this means before I played around with it U33 worked yes? because it is responding to the power button.

            I just tried that again, battery and power cable plugged in and pressed the power button, and the chipset did not get hot at all, only U33
            You are correct again.
            Last edited by Tuomo; 02-10-2013, 01:27 AM.

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            • Tuomo
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              #186
              Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

              Originally posted by grahamw01
              yes, PQ13, PQ15, PU11, PQ10, PQ3.. I think!

              Thanks
              VIN "19V" = 6V after PQ22 so something happen there.

              Can you check resistance PC43, I mean same way as PL5 etc. If it is low there is short circuit after PQ22.

              If PC43 resistance is correct PQ22 not OPEN corretly.
              Last edited by Tuomo; 02-10-2013, 01:37 AM.

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              • Tuomo
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                #187
                Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                Originally posted by Tuomo
                VIN "19V" = 6V after PQ22 so something happen there.

                Can you check resistance PC43, I mean same way as PL5 etc. If it is low there is short circuit after PQ22.

                If PC43 resistance is correct PQ22 not OPEN corretly.
                This is for New board not for Good Charge board.

                Sorry if I caused confusion.
                Last edited by Tuomo; 02-10-2013, 05:23 AM.

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                • grahamw01
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                  #188
                  Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                  Originally posted by opamp
                  This is the old board, right?
                  This is both boards actually as I swapped from one to the other.

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                  • grahamw01
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                    #189
                    Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                    Originally posted by Tuomo
                    You are correct again.
                    Hmm, I can't think of what I have done to U33 on this board though!

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                    • grahamw01
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                      #190
                      Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                      Originally posted by Tuomo
                      VIN "19V" = 6V after PQ22 so something happen there.

                      Can you check resistance PC43, I mean same way as PL5 etc. If it is low there is short circuit after PQ22.

                      If PC43 resistance is correct PQ22 not OPEN corretly.
                      Resistance is the same on PC43 on both boards, in the Mohms

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                      • grahamw01
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                        #191
                        Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                        with ICs like PU11 how can I ensure I have put it back correctly? there is no pins, and the pads on the motherboard are so small and close together, i think this is where my problem is..

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                        • Tuomo
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                          #192
                          Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                          Originally posted by grahamw01
                          with ICs like PU11 how can I ensure I have put it back correctly? there is no pins, and the pads on the motherboard are so small and close together, i think this is where my problem is..
                          If it is wrong way, it is not work at all. This case no charge etc.

                          Chip has usually small mark which show PIN 1 and motherboard too.

                          If there is no PIN it is very hard put correct into place.

                          We can try check few signals to test PU11 works or not.

                          Charge not work until there is VIN 19V, which missing at the moment?

                          ACOK# signal detect if AC ON or AC OFF. If AC ON = LOW and AC OFF = HIGH.

                          You can check PQ14 PIN2. AC ON = LOW and AC OFF = HIGH.

                          Then you can remove AC try if it boot with Battery.
                          Last edited by Tuomo; 02-10-2013, 11:56 AM.

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                          • Tuomo
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                            #193
                            Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                            Originally posted by grahamw01
                            Hmm, I can't think of what I have done to U33 on this board though!
                            Only thing which may stress U33 is Battery ON/OFF while power is ON.

                            I think U33 was broken allready and just dead.

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                            • grahamw01
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                              #194
                              Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                              Originally posted by Tuomo
                              If it is wrong way, it is not work at all. This case no charge etc.

                              Chip has usually small mark which show PIN 1 and motherboard too.

                              If there is no PIN it is very hard put correct into place.

                              We can try check few signals to test PU11 works or not.

                              Charge not work until there is VIN 19V, which missing at the moment?

                              ACOK# signal detect if AC ON or AC OFF. If AC ON = LOW and AC OFF = HIGH.

                              You can check PQ14 PIN2. AC ON = LOW and AC OFF = HIGH.

                              Then you can remove AC try if it boot with Battery.
                              PQ14 pin 2 is 4.8V

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                              • grahamw01
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                                #195
                                Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                                tried to turn it on with only battery and then AC and battery, still nothing (((((((((

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                                • Tuomo
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                                  #196
                                  Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                                  Originally posted by grahamw01
                                  PQ14 pin 2 is 4.8V
                                  Try AC ON and AC OFF. Maybe PU11 not detect AC.

                                  Check PC169 DCIN.

                                  You can check PIN1, PIN3 too. Try boot with battery.

                                  I think if it boot with Battery then problem is PU11.

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                                  • grahamw01
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                                    #197
                                    Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                                    It doesn't boot with anything

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                                    • grahamw01
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                                      #198
                                      Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                                      Originally posted by Tuomo
                                      Try AC ON and AC OFF. Maybe PU11 not detect AC.

                                      Check PC169 DCIN.

                                      You can check PIN1, PIN3 too. Try boot with battery.

                                      I think if it boot with Battery then problem is PU11.
                                      PC169 is 17.5V

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                                      • Tuomo
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                                        #199
                                        Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                                        Originally posted by grahamw01
                                        PC169 is 17.5V
                                        ok. PU11 not works correctly.

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                                        • grahamw01
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                                          #200
                                          Re: HP Envy 15 cannot charge battery!

                                          I will have a play around with it today, and make sure things I have played with are soldered in place properly, thanks

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