Kenwood KR-6030 vintage stereo ,Old Man Trying to Save a Buck

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  • Agent24
    I see dead caps
    • Oct 2007
    • 4970
    • New Zealand

    #21
    Originally posted by DrDos
    I pulled up an interior picture of the 6030 and it looks like I am missing a fuse holder on the power board. Don't know what the guy who had it before me did other than he said he put a new plug and cord on it. Anyway I am plugging along. I'd appreciate any help or advice, or ... Cheers!
    The F2 fuse holder is not missing, it was never there to begin with.
    The schematic shows F2 as connecting to nothing on one side (Pin 3 of the power board) so it is not used for your model. There will be some other model that uses it.
    You will notice that Pin 3 next to F2 is not fitted either.
    So that is not a problem.

    F3 next to it is the fuse for the dial lights, it seems. It should be a 1 Amp fuse.

    F1 is beneath some wires and is the mains side fuse. It should be a 6 Amp fuse.
    I would check to see if it is blown, if nothing works, even after cleaning the switch.

    Note that this fuse holder has a direct connection to MAINS via the neutral side, or what is supposed to be neutral, assuming you have a polarised and correctly-wired mains plug.
    So be very careful around the power supply board and especially that F1 fuse holder when the set is plugged in!
    "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
    -David VanHorn

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    • DrDos
      Member
      • Aug 2025
      • 23
      • U.S.

      #22
      Thanks Agent24, That info is awesome. I get nothing when I try to fire it up. I currently only have an analog meter but will try to see what I get looking for the voltages. I'm glad the ceramic is still good it looked kinda fried on one side. Leme get to checkin the power board, oh and the relay yes, it's the one that is supposed to click just after turning the unit on speaker safety I guess. Thanks

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      • DrDos
        Member
        • Aug 2025
        • 23
        • U.S.

        #23
        I wonder, if it is the switch (on/off - speakers) I have a single pull single throw 250v switch to use to bypass the carbonized points in the current switch, although I cleaned the switch and I show continuity from 0 to 100% by turning the unit on (not plugged in). Would that work? I'm going to test the supply board now. Thanks

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        • DrDos
          Member
          • Aug 2025
          • 23
          • U.S.

          #24
          Well tough job. Pin 8 seems to have something like 40 to 45 volts. Pin 11 seems to show closer to 72 volts. Having a hard time finding pin 5 but none of the pins on that side shows less than 10volts and 3 are. OMG I was just poking around the side of pins and the lamps all lit up. I now have a lighted dial and have no idea what I did. Any thought or maybe something else to check?

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          • DrDos
            Member
            • Aug 2025
            • 23
            • U.S.

            #25
            Okay so now the lights come on but if I move the reciever around on the table they go off and on like there is a short. Unsure how to check that.

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            • DrDos
              Member
              • Aug 2025
              • 23
              • U.S.

              #26
              When the lights came on I decided it was time for a digital meter. Since they go on and off just from moving the stereo around I think the problem lies in the on/off switch but that wouldn't explain why the relay doesn't click soon after you turn it on.

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              • DrDos
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                • Aug 2025
                • 23
                • U.S.

                #27
                Sorry for all the posts. Do you notice anything wrong with the switch that stands out to you? Question: There are 3 wires that hook up to the switch and provide headphones. There is a broke resister on one of the wires. Can I disconnect al the wires for the headphones and still have the unit work? It will take me some time to get a resister. What I mean by broke is that one of the wires coming out of the resister is broken right at the end of the resister itself. No room to solder it back on. I appreciate your advice. At least things are starting to happen now.

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                • Agent24
                  I see dead caps
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 4970
                  • New Zealand

                  #28
                  Originally posted by DrDos
                  When the lights came on I decided it was time for a digital meter. Since they go on and off just from moving the stereo around I think the problem lies in the on/off switch but that wouldn't explain why the relay doesn't click soon after you turn it on.
                  Bad connections somewhere, could be the switch, could be old and cracked solder joints (very likely for something this old).
                  I would check the underside of that power supply board, you may find a lot of joints that need re-soldering.

                  The relay not coming on could be a lot of reasons, including, yes, bad capacitors.

                  I think the first thing here is to get the set into a state where it can turn on and stay on, then you can start checking all the DC voltages and make sure they are okay.
                  "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                  -David VanHorn

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                  • Agent24
                    I see dead caps
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 4970
                    • New Zealand

                    #29
                    Originally posted by DrDos
                    Sorry for all the posts. Do you notice anything wrong with the switch that stands out to you? Question: There are 3 wires that hook up to the switch and provide headphones. There is a broke resister on one of the wires. Can I disconnect al the wires for the headphones and still have the unit work? It will take me some time to get a resister. What I mean by broke is that one of the wires coming out of the resister is broken right at the end of the resister itself. No room to solder it back on. I appreciate your advice. At least things are starting to happen now.
                    The switch looks okay but I can't see the contacts very well from that angle.
                    I also can't see a broken resistor either.
                    What part did you clean?

                    The headphone circuit being attached or not won't affect the ability to power on etc.

                    The switch is actually two switches.

                    There is the rotary part at the front which selects between headphones and speaker outputs,
                    And the mains power switch which I expect is inside the grey rectangular part underneath.

                    The rotary part should not affect power to the unit, it could just cause problems with audio at the outputs.

                    However, there seems to be a connection between this switch and part of the regulator circuit for the 14V rail.
                    So this switch might also control that rail, but it only seems to feed the radio tuner section.

                    So if you are having problems with the dial lights coming on and off, you have other problems unrelated to the rotary part of that switch.
                    "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                    -David VanHorn

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                    • DrDos
                      Member
                      • Aug 2025
                      • 23
                      • U.S.

                      #30
                      Now that I have a digital I get 38v on 8 and 38v on 11. The dial lights are on. Checking the speakers out I get 0.0 looking for AC in the lines and 0.0 using a DC check. I'm going to hook up speakers and see what happens. Thank you very much for your help I really appriciate it. I do have a smell coming from it. It's not a burning smell really but like someone left the iron on for a while. Nothing seems to be getting hot.

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                      • DrDos
                        Member
                        • Aug 2025
                        • 23
                        • U.S.

                        #31
                        Dial lights come on now when I turn the unit on. I just disconnected the wires for the headphones, I don't use them anyway. I'm going to check speakers.

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                        • DrDos
                          Member
                          • Aug 2025
                          • 23
                          • U.S.

                          #32
                          Well, The on/off switch is a little funky in that lights will fluctuate on and off as I turn the switch. They stay on if I leave the switch alone. The tuner is working. I get signal and the other meter zeros in but I get no sound from the speaker connections. Is it AC or DC that comes out when sound is working? I haven't found pin 5 yet to test. Checking on problems with these recievers there was mention of faulty regulators Q1 2SC789 and 2SD526. I know nothing about these regulators but at least we have power, lights and new posibilties. Again I really appreciate your help with this. Looking forward to next instructions.

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                          • DrDos
                            Member
                            • Aug 2025
                            • 23
                            • U.S.

                            #33
                            Okay, the set turns on and stays on. Had it on for over an hour. I found pin 5 and there is not a wire connected to it. Lights only fluctuate when I mess with the switch. Ready to start checking DC voltages tomorrow. Is there a system I can follow? Cheers!

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