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  • RJARRRPCGP
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jul 2004
    • 6304
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    #1

    I want to mod my Belkin UPS! The original battery appears to be bad. :(

    After I slid the cover off the Belkin UPS, which I purchased in 2002, it looks like the battery pack should be 24V total or 28 V total. I'm thinking about hooking another battery to it, because getting a battery from a UPS manufacturer pretty much costs as much as another UPS!
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  • weirdlookinguy
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    • Sep 2007
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    #2
    Re: I want to mod my Belkin UPS! The original battery appears to be bad.

    What caps were in it? Just curious.

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    • RJARRRPCGP
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      • Jul 2004
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      #3
      Re: I want to mod my Belkin UPS! The original battery appears to be bad.

      I haven't checked yet. I'm thinking about hooking a battery to it, likely the other parts of it are fine. Just seems to never hold a charge anymore.
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      • zandrax
        Hit and miss
        • Dec 2007
        • 1157
        • Italy

        #4
        Re: I want to mod my Belkin UPS! The original battery appears to be bad.

        Willawake posted something about UPS batteries in the Vip section, mostly brands to avoid. Don't remember the exact thread though

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        • RJARRRPCGP
          Badcaps Legend
          • Jul 2004
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          #5
          Re: I want to mod my Belkin UPS! The original battery appears to be bad.

          I'm thinking about doing something like this:

          http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=584475

          It looks like the battery for the Belkin UPS I have will be 24 V or 36 V.

          From Freezer7Pro, the one who posted this at ocforums.com:

          " I found my old 1998 UPS a couple of days ago, and thought I'd see if it still worked. I plugged it in, and it wouldn't even start, so I downloaded a manual, and sure enough, there needs to be power in the battery for it to even boot."

          -----------------------------------------------------------------

          My Belkin UPS seems to do the same thing! It appears to be trying to power up with the battery, because I can see the battery LED glow weak. It's currently stuck like this, it won't click to AC power mode.
          Last edited by RJARRRPCGP; 12-13-2008, 10:06 PM.
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          • PCBONEZ
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            • Aug 2005
            • 10661
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            #6
            Re: I want to mod my Belkin UPS! The original battery appears to be bad.

            Might look here when you need batts.

            http://www.gruberpower.com/gruberpow...es/default.asp
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            • RJARRRPCGP
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              • Jul 2004
              • 6304
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              #7
              Re: I want to mod my Belkin UPS! The original battery appears to be bad.

              Originally posted by PCBONEZ
              Might look here when you need batts.

              http://www.gruberpower.com/gruberpow...es/default.asp
              The model is: F6C800-UNV

              According to that web site, it's 12 V. Looked like it was 24 V or a little higher when I looked at printed stuff in the UPS. I saw something say "28V" after sliding off the cover.
              Last edited by RJARRRPCGP; 12-14-2008, 03:42 AM.
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              • i4004
                Badcaps Legend
                • Oct 2006
                • 2029

                #8
                Re: I want to mod my Belkin UPS! The original battery appears to be bad.

                can you show us that battery?
                can you measure it's voltage?
                can you hook 2 12v batteries to make one 24v, etc.

                also, can we see pcb of that ups?
                (better to say can i see it, as i'm interested in belkin ups)
                what i'm seeing in older apc units is a fuckin disaster to repair...

                btw.
                http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=F6C80...le+Search&fp=1
                check shopping results, ie
                http://www.batterysupplyco.com/f6c800-unv1.html

                however, i would still like to see the pcb(if you dismantled it that far, offcourse...of not, forget it....)
                Last edited by i4004; 12-14-2008, 07:34 AM.

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                • Krankshaft
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 2328
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: I want to mod my Belkin UPS! The original battery appears to be bad.

                  That's the problem with Lead Acid batteries. They over time discharge themselves due to their own internal resistance.

                  As a result excess lead sulphate (a white substance a natural byproduct of the discharge process) forms on the plates which inhibits the batteries ability to charge. It can happen suddenly or be a slow death for the battery as it loses capacity.

                  Normally when you charge the battery (before it reaches less than a 25% charge) the lead sulphate is converted back into lead dioxide and spounge lead. So the discharge process can begin all over again. However if the battery is discharged too deeply (and too much of it gets on the plates) this chemical reaction can be extremely difficult or even impossible to reverse.

                  As for your mod that looks you won't want to use a ordinary car starting battery they are designed to give a quick burst of energy to drive a starter and not much else. They also don't like deep discharges.

                  A deep cycle battery would be more appropriate it will provide greater long term energy delivery. It will cost a bit more though.
                  Last edited by Krankshaft; 12-15-2008, 06:00 AM.
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                  • Motorola_Tech
                    New Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 2

                    #10
                    Re: I want to mod my Belkin UPS! The original battery appears to be bad.

                    RJARRRPCGP,

                    Did you get your question's answered? If not, drop me an email at mathes.curtis@yahoo.com

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                    • japlytic
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 2086
                      • Australia

                      #11
                      Re: I want to mod my Belkin UPS! The original battery appears to be bad.

                      Beware, some UPS units have the battery at mains potential.
                      My first choice in quality Japanese electrolytics is Nippon Chemi-Con, which has been in business since 1931... the quality of electronics is dependent on the quality of the electrolytics.

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                      • i4004
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 2029

                        #12
                        Re: I want to mod my Belkin UPS! The original battery appears to be bad.

                        >Beware, some UPS units have the battery at mains potential.

                        what do you mean?

                        mains potential is 110 or 220v ac.
                        what would that do on the battery terminals?

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