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  • pentium
    Badcaps Legend
    • Mar 2006
    • 2778
    • Canada

    #1

    clearing solder tubes

    I have NEVER had a single recap go without at least one hole end up partially filled in a way that makes regular use of the iron and a solder sucker impossible.
    I have a board here in the shop that needs to be finished before Tuesday and it's just my luck that I have two holes with this problem. I have tired several times unsuccessfully to clear the hole and I have no soldering braid and I won't be able to get some any time soon. What should I do to clear the holes?
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  • zandrax
    Hit and miss
    • Dec 2007
    • 1157
    • Italy

    #2
    Re: clearing solder tubes

    Originally posted by pentium
    What should I do to clear the holes?
    Did you try toothpicks?

    Zandrax
    Have an happy life.

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    • willawake
      Super Modulator
      • Nov 2003
      • 8457
      • Greece

      #3
      Re: clearing solder tubes

      work both sides with a needle
      add solder also to both sides
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      • pentium
        Badcaps Legend
        • Mar 2006
        • 2778
        • Canada

        #4
        Re: clearing solder tubes

        Thanks you two.
        I got it now.
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        Check the Vending machines!!

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        • Krankshaft
          Badcaps Legend
          • Jan 2007
          • 2328
          • USA

          #5
          Re: clearing solder tubes

          While on the topic about desoldering braid I bought a 100 foot spool from Newark for around 50 bucks and I'm still using it for over a year three quarters of it is gone mind you.

          But I haven't been getting ripped at Ratshack for 10 feet of it anymore either.

          Buy one of these and you'll never need to worry about running out.
          Last edited by Krankshaft; 05-12-2008, 07:38 AM.
          Elements of the past and the future combining to make something not quite as good as either.

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          • ant3202
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Jun 2006
            • 275
            • Singapore

            #6
            Re: clearing solder tubes

            Originally posted by zandrax
            Did you try toothpicks?

            Zandrax
            thanks for a great tip

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            • bgavin
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jan 2007
              • 1355

              #7
              Re: clearing solder tubes

              Will's needle technique works every time for me. Use stainless... 450C is required at the iron.

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              • zandrax
                Hit and miss
                • Dec 2007
                • 1157
                • Italy

                #8
                Re: clearing solder tubes

                Originally posted by ant3202
                thanks for a great tip
                Well, thanks i4004 for it: I simply linked his experience.

                Zandrax
                Have an happy life.

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                • Bookworm
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 123

                  #9
                  Re: clearing solder tubes

                  I've _never_ managed to get solder wick to work worth a hoot. I use a desoldering iron for some, and a solder sucker for the rest.

                  Sometimes I have to use the 'stainless steel pick' method. but if I can brace the board well, I've found I get almost a perfect record at clearing holes with the sucker - the cleaner the hole, the less likely it is you have to worry about ROHS vs lead solder.

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                  • arneson
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 1267

                    #10
                    Re: clearing solder tubes

                    Like every other thing, there are times when a good braid with flux is exactly the correct method.
                    Occasionally I just gently smack the board on my knee, believe it or not that works quite well for me.
                    Jim

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                    • Krankshaft
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 2328
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: clearing solder tubes

                      I remember when I first started using braid I could solder well but soldering and desoldering are two different beasts.

                      After I got the hang of it though I can't live without it.

                      I still do get those tough dog traces that plug up with solder.

                      In some predicaments the braid just won't work.

                      I like to heat up the solder and use a sewing needle.

                      If that doesn't work I fill the hole with solder and insert the cap into the hole melt the solder and press down lightly until the component is seated.

                      I then add a bit more solder on that connection for good measure.

                      This only works if you already have one of the holes desoldered though.

                      In worse predicaments I have trimmed the caps leads down to about 2 inches and walked the cap into the holes melt one lead push melt the other and so on but that is not fun and its time consuming.
                      Last edited by Krankshaft; 05-28-2008, 09:17 AM.
                      Elements of the past and the future combining to make something not quite as good as either.

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                      • bassbindevil
                        Member
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 11

                        #12
                        Re: clearing solder tubes

                        As a last resort, I've used a very small drill bit (around #70) to clear a hole. I chucked it in an X-acto knife handle and turned carefully it by hand. Since the hole was partly clear, hopefully the bit would stay centered and just remove solder, not the through-plating.

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                        • ratdude747
                          Black Sheep
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 17136
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: clearing solder tubes

                          hate to revive, but i recently bought some braid.

                          i have tried it for some things, bu i have no idea how to use it on pcb's... how do you use it?
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                          • brethin
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 1907
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: clearing solder tubes

                            Dunno if I do it the correct way but I do this.

                            Heat joint with iron.
                            Remove iron.
                            Lay braid on joint.
                            Lay iron on braid.
                            Heat braid with iron thus heating joint under braid.
                            Watch braid get hot and suck solder from joint.
                            Drink a Beer and repeat.

                            That or I use my delsolder/sucker iron.

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                            • severach
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 1055
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: clearing solder tubes

                              If the solder is good and the board doesn't take much heat then the Hakko 808 can clear it in one shot. Since the tip of a desoldering gun is always solder free a little fresh solder helps move more heat. If the board pulls too much heat away I add more with the SMD station. The nice thing about the station is I can heat as long as I want to without damage then when the desolderer touches the joint it doesn't take much more heat to melt the solder all the way through.
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                              • ratdude747
                                Black Sheep
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 17136
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: clearing solder tubes

                                the hakko 808 is pricy though... i use my sucker when i can, bu t i know people who swear by braid... found the good kind cheap...
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                                • PCBONEZ
                                  Grumpy Old Fart
                                  • Aug 2005
                                  • 10661
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: clearing solder tubes

                                  Originally posted by pentium
                                  I have NEVER had a single recap go without at least one hole end up partially filled in a way that makes regular use of the iron and a solder sucker impossible.
                                  I have a board here in the shop that needs to be finished before Tuesday and it's just my luck that I have two holes with this problem. I have tired several times unsuccessfully to clear the hole and I have no soldering braid and I won't be able to get some any time soon. What should I do to clear the holes?
                                  Get an exacto knife handle with a metal chuck collet and the aluminum handle.
                                  [Not the cheapie plastic collet.]
                                  - Dunno about where you are in the Great White North but down here in the Land of Scorpions and Cactus our Home Depot has the handles [individually, not in a kit] with the metal collet for not too much.

                                  Chuck in an appropriate sized Stainless Steel sewing needle.
                                  Heat solder hole on one side.
                                  Push needle in from other side as the solder melts.
                                  [Don't push hard, just sort of feed it as the solder melts.]
                                  [When needle is part way through touch it with the iron to carry heat.]
                                  Use solder braid to sop up the solder around the needle.
                                  Gently rotate the needle to make sure it's free of the via then remove needle.
                                  [If it's not free heat the needle until it is.]

                                  The handle is a big enough heat sink that you won't burn your fingers [unless maybe you grab it at the chuck end].

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                                  • PCBONEZ
                                    Grumpy Old Fart
                                    • Aug 2005
                                    • 10661
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: clearing solder tubes

                                    Originally posted by ratdude747
                                    hate to revive, but i recently bought some braid.

                                    i have tried it for some things, bu i have no idea how to use it on pcb's... how do you use it?
                                    If you bought the cheap dry kind you need to add flux to the braid.

                                    The Navy always gave us the cheap dry kind.
                                    .
                                    Mann-Made Global Warming.
                                    - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                                    -
                                    Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                                    - Dr Seuss
                                    -
                                    You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                                    -

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                                    • brethin
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Dec 2008
                                      • 1907
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: clearing solder tubes

                                      Get one of these if the hakko 808 is too expensive for you, I did and it rocks. Toasty recommended it and I couldn't be happier with it. Plus I got a free Digital Multimeter as gift for ordering it.

                                      Good stuff

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                                      • ratdude747
                                        Black Sheep
                                        • Nov 2008
                                        • 17136
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: clearing solder tubes

                                        Originally posted by brethin
                                        Get one of these if the hakko 808 is too expensive for you, I did and it rocks. Toasty recommended it and I couldn't be happier with it. Plus I got a free Digital Multimeter as gift for ordering it.

                                        Good stuff
                                        still out of budget...

                                        idk if my braid is dry or not... it might have had flux in it... it's gc brand.
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