Altec PC410 (BGA Rework) to communicate with PC

[pronester]

hello guys,

I am trying to control my homemade BGA rework with RS485 (USB) using a desktop PC, but a dialog box keep pop up saying communication error - cant establish connection between the BGA machine and the PC (refer pic).

Some information:
- using windows desktop PC
- the software - PSoft Rework v 2.3.1
- the RS485 and the PC410 are properly connected i.e wired to the right pins
- trying other IR6000 software but require a password for installation

Appreciate your suggestion on how to rectify the problem.

Thanks.

[stj]

Re: Altec PC410 (BGA Rework) to communicate with PC

first run a terminal program to make sure the usb interface and it's driver work.
99% of serial problems are down to the drivers or interface.

[pronester]

Re: Altec PC410 (BGA Rework) to communicate with PC

first run a terminal program to make sure the usb interface and it's driver work.
99% of serial problems are down to the drivers or interface.

how do i do that sir?
thank you for the response tho

[R_J]

Re: Altec PC410 (BGA Rework) to communicate with PC

Did you install the driver for the usb to rs485 adaptor? If that is a CH340 adaptor I believe there is a program CH341SER.exe that will install the driver

[pronester]

Re: Altec PC410 (BGA Rework) to communicate with PC

Did you install the driver for the usb to rs485 adaptor? If that is a CH340 adaptor I believe there is a program CH341SER.exe that will install the driver

i did install the compatible driver and it is recognized by the pc

[R_J]

Re: Altec PC410 (BGA Rework) to communicate with PC

What are your com port settings?, there is some information here: https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...t=60723&page=2

[pronester]

Re: Altec PC410 (BGA Rework) to communicate with PC

What are your com port settings?, there is some information here: https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...t=60723&page=2

my com port default setting as in the pic attached. BTW should i match the com port setting to the psoft. but still it doesnt worked tho.

on the thread, i read it earlier but still i get the same result.

[R_J]

Re: Altec PC410 (BGA Rework) to communicate with PC

I have read in the ACHI_IR6500 manual which looks like similar software, where the usb to serial needs to be set to com1, I see on another site that the psoft software can be configured to other com ports so make sure it is set to com7 like the serial adaptor

[pronester]

Re: Altec PC410 (BGA Rework) to communicate with PC

I have read in the ACHI_IR6500 manual which looks like similar software, where the usb to serial needs to be set to com1, have you tried that?
It could be that the psoft software can't operate on com7

aha..you got a point..initially i thought it could be connected to any port
let me check where is this port 1 located in the motherboard

[R_J]

Re: Altec PC410 (BGA Rework) to communicate with PC

I edited my post, I also found this site which has a bit of information https://www.antalife.com/2018/10/pro...plate-mod.html

[pronester]

Re: Altec PC410 (BGA Rework) to communicate with PC

I edited my post, I also found this site which has a bit of information https://www.antalife.com/2018/10/pro...plate-mod.html

ok thanks..i try to work it out..not sure how to connect to com1 of my pc.. i can see a port here in the motherboard labelled as j_com1

but during my test earlier i did match the port from the com port and the psoft i.e i set port 7 for both psoft and pc

[stj]

Re: Altec PC410 (BGA Rework) to communicate with PC

is the controller using rs485?
i thought they where rs232 normally.

[megaraider]

Re: Altec PC410 (BGA Rework) to communicate with PC

is the controller using rs485?
i thought they where rs232 normally.

From what i see that's precisely his mistake, imho.
The CH341 based is an USB to Serial converter, not an USB to RS232 converter!
[@pronester see here how Serial and RS232 are different, already mentioned by @R_J]
Therefore PC410 won't acknowledge connection.

Either use the motherboard COM port or a truly USB to RS232 converter.

[R_J]

Re: Altec PC410 (BGA Rework) to communicate with PC

If the pc has an rs232 port, just use that instead of a usb to rs485 adaptor, It looks like the PC900 series (PC-410) will work with rs232, rs422 or rs485, One parameter that can be changed on the controller is the baud rate, so check what it is set to and match it.
acording to the ORDER CODE it could also be that the pc-410 is preconfigured for a certain communication configuration so check its complete part number

[pronester]

Re: Altec PC410 (BGA Rework) to communicate with PC

is the controller using rs485?
i thought they where rs232 normally.

yes rs485 usb

[pronester]

Re: Altec PC410 (BGA Rework) to communicate with PC

If the pc has an rs232 port, just use that instead of a usb to rs485 adaptor, It looks like the PC900 series (PC-410) will work with rs232, rs422 or rs485, One parameter that can be changed on the controller is the baud rate, so check what it is set to and match it.
acording to the ORDER CODE it could also be that the pc-410 is preconfigured for a certain communication configuration so check its complete part number

ok i take note on that..thanks for the reply

[pronester]

Re: Altec PC410 (BGA Rework) to communicate with PC

From what i see that's precisely his mistake, imho.
The CH341 based is an USB to Serial converter, not an USB to RS232 converter!
[@pronester see here how Serial and RS232 are different, already mentioned by @R_J]
Therefore PC410 won't acknowledge connection.

Either use the motherboard COM port or a truly USB to RS232 converter.

ok thanks on the suggestion man, i will get this converter to test it with the machine and pc

[vinifera]

Re: Altec PC410 (BGA Rework) to communicate with PC

Hi Pronester,

i have the same problem and my connection is via RS232 to USB ?
have you found the solution ?
Can you give me feedback

thx

[mon2]

Re: Altec PC410 (BGA Rework) to communicate with PC

Hi Pronester,

i have the same problem and my connection is via RS232 to USB ?
have you found the solution ?
Can you give me feedback

thx

Hi. Are you still working on this? Cool projects

Perhaps we can help.

We have been designing I/O adapters with 232/422/485 for the past 30+ years.

[mon2]

Re: Altec PC410 (BGA Rework) to communicate with PC

The landing page for these modules:

http://altec.cc/english/products/tem...c900/PC900.htm