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  • ratdude747
    Black Sheep
    • Nov 2008
    • 17136
    • USA

    #1

    Favorite solder mixes

    well, as many know, solder comes in many mixes... the most common being either 60/40 and 63/37.

    Vote on your favorite mix.

    I personally used to like 60/40, but I now find 63/37 to perform much better due to the lower melting temp and lack of a semisolid state.

    edit- on another note, if i have to use lead-free for something, i find that 99/0.7 (sn/cu) seems to work well... not as good as leaded, but if leaded isn't allowed, then you do what you have to do.
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  • c_hegge
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    • Sep 2009
    • 5219
    • Australia

    #2
    Re: Favorite solder mixes

    I can't comment, since I've only ever had 60/40, but it works well for everything I solder
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    • Agent24
      I see dead caps
      • Oct 2007
      • 4951
      • New Zealand

      #3
      Re: Favorite solder mixes

      Both seem the same to me, or I haven't used 63/37 enough to notice the difference.
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      • mockingbird
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        • Dec 2008
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        #4
        Re: Favorite solder mixes

        I think you have it mixed... The 63/37 HAS the semi-sold state - that means to say - that it will stay fluid for a few seconds even after the ehat source is taken away. I started using 63/37 exclusively now. Either way is ok, I guess.

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        • Agent24
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          • Oct 2007
          • 4951
          • New Zealand

          #5
          Re: Favorite solder mixes

          No, 60/40 is definitely the one with the semi-solid state.
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          • momaka
            master hoarder
            • May 2008
            • 12170
            • Bulgaria

            #6
            Re: Favorite solder mixes

            I voted for 60/40, but in reality I'm not really quire sure what I'm using because the leaded solder I have was given to me by my uncle (and if I'm not mistaken, that stuff is leftover from when he was into electronics way back in the day). I works pretty good, though, and the joints come out nice and shiny.

            I also have a spool of lead free solder (95 SN, 5 Sb), 3mm dia, and no flux inside. I use that with no-clean flux when soldering SMT stuff.... Works very well actually. Sometimes i used it for recaps as well, especially on multilayer boards, since the flux goes down in the vias, and then the solder follows it and sticks to it.
            Most of the time, the joints look fairly shiny too. It's only if I don't heat the component enough or if I move it while the solder is cooling that the joint will look dull.

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            • shovenose
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              • Aug 2010
              • 6575
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Favorite solder mixes

              I voted other since I don't know.

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              • PCBONEZ
                Grumpy Old Fart
                • Aug 2005
                • 10661
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Favorite solder mixes

                Originally posted by mockingbird
                I think you have it mixed... The 63/37 HAS the semi-sold state - that means to say - that it will stay fluid for a few seconds even after the ehat source is taken away. I started using 63/37 exclusively now. Either way is ok, I guess.
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                • Topcat
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                  • Oct 2003
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                  #9
                  Re: Favorite solder mixes

                  60/40 is my preferred....but 63/37 is also fine. Either will work for motherboard repair. I've found that 63/37 is a tad easier to work with on some of the poorer RoHS mixes, as the 63/37 melts at a little lower temp and seems to make reflowing a little easier....would be helpful to those using lower wattage irons.
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                  • Agent24
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                    • Oct 2007
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                    #10
                    Re: Favorite solder mixes

                    Originally posted by PCBONEZ
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                    I wonder why they don't want people to use water soluble fluxes?
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                    • PCBONEZ
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                      • Aug 2005
                      • 10661
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Favorite solder mixes

                      Originally posted by Agent24
                      I wonder why they don't want people to use water soluble fluxes?
                      Most of them are corrosive and the byproducts [corrosion] can be conductive so if not properly cleaned up after it can lead to problems.
                      The biggest problem is probably the tight spots under SMD parts where proper cleaning is difficult.
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                      In other words, though not advertised or thought of that way, they are basically an acid flux.
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                      • Agent24
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                        • Oct 2007
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                        #12
                        Re: Favorite solder mixes

                        Originally posted by PCBONEZ
                        In other words, though not advertised or thought of that way, they are basically an acid flux.
                        Oh really? Didn't know that. That might explain some things...
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                        • delaware74b
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                          • Apr 2009
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                          #13
                          Re: Favorite solder mixes

                          I am using up the last of RadioShack's 'silver bearing' (62%-tin, 36%-lead, 2%-silver) solder I got a few years ago. I also have a 1-lb spool of Kester 60/40 that I purchased with my Weller soldering station last year.
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