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  • crdz66
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Nov 2012
    • 242
    • USA

    #1

    Elefw327 won't turn on

    Hi Everyone.

    I need you opinion.
    I have a Element Led Tv with not power on (Remote or push button).
    I already check capacitors, diodes, etc.
    I don't have a standby light.
    Everybody mention about some kind of eeprom chip is the fail on this model, but that is when the standby light is on or either way (on or off)
    Thanks.

    Fuse are ok too.
    I just have presence voltage 3.2v on inverter connector but because is a led it is no necessary.
  • Dgtech
    E. Technician
    • Apr 2009
    • 1462
    • Steeler

    #2
    Re: Elefw327 won't turn on

    Does this model have an onboard power board or a power supply that is external to the TV set? What is the incoming power looking like?
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    • crdz66
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Nov 2012
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      #3
      Re: Elefw327 won't turn on

      There are two boards.
      Power Supply/Main Board
      Tcon Board
      Just 2

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      • MisterD
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Oct 2012
        • 668
        • United States

        #4
        Re: Elefw327 won't turn on

        I suggest that you use the search box in this forum, type in the model number and compare the voltage readings that you get with others that have been posted, in my case my same model element was a bad EEPROM but I Did have a standby light...Did you check the DC Voltage across the main capacitor?

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        • crdz66
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          • Nov 2012
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          #5
          Re: Elefw327 won't turn on

          No yet.
          I going to check

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          • crdz66
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Nov 2012
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            #6
            Re: Elefw327 won't turn on

            168v crossing main capacitor

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            • crdz66
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Nov 2012
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              #7
              Re: Elefw327 won't turn on

              The 2 D89 Diodes show:
              1. 0v
              2. Going from 0 to 100v and make a lot fluctuations

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              • MisterD
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Oct 2012
                • 668
                • United States

                #8
                Re: Elefw327 won't turn on

                Check the voltage on the red wire at the white connector where the circuit board is marked CN1, connect your black negative wire of the meter to the chassis ground, what voltage do you get there?

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                • crdz66
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Nov 2012
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                  #9
                  Re: Elefw327 won't turn on

                  0 volts with fluctuations

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                  • MisterD
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 668
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                    #10
                    Re: Elefw327 won't turn on

                    The next thing I would do is make sure all of the mounting screws for the Power Supply/Main Board are tight to ensure a good ground.especially since you are getting fluctuations in voltage readings.
                    also you may want to make sure your volt meter has new or good batteries.

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                    • budm
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                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Elefw327 won't turn on

                      Can we see the pictures of your boards? Shojimmy sells EEPROM for this set also.

                      http://www.shopjimmy.com/element-ele...eprom-only.htm
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                      • crdz66
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                        • Nov 2012
                        • 242
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                        #12
                        Re: Elefw327 won't turn on

                        Yes all screws are very tight
                        batteries good conditions on my multimeter.
                        still no standby light
                        pics upload
                        Attached Files
                        Last edited by crdz66; 07-18-2014, 06:29 AM.

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                        • selldoor
                          Slow Learner
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 7870

                          #13
                          Re: Elefw327 won't turn on

                          Did you check the voltage regulators UL1 UL51 UL41 and the one next to it
                          and what is the part number of the component on the heatsink opposite side to the bridge rectifier

                          On the back of the board there is a mosfet? QB16 to test

                          Did you try it without the backlight cable and lvds in case there is a short on those.
                          Last edited by selldoor; 07-18-2014, 07:18 AM.
                          Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                          • crdz66
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Nov 2012
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                            #14
                            Re: Elefw327 won't turn on

                            no yet
                            going to check

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                            • crdz66
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                              • Nov 2012
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                              #15
                              Re: Elefw327 won't turn on

                              UL 41 AND UL 51 SHOW 0 VDC
                              UL 1 MAKE FLUCTUATIONS BETWEEN 0 TO 135 ON 2000mV SCALE ON MY DMM
                              I DID IT WITH LED CONNECTOR AND LVDS DISCONNECT.
                              MY FRIEND TOLD ME AS SOON HE CONNECT THE TV SMELL LIKE BURN BUT CAN'T FIND NOTHING ALREADY BURNED.

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                              • selldoor
                                Slow Learner
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 7870

                                #16
                                Re: Elefw327 won't turn on

                                Ok Sholud reallqy be 3 results for each regulator - all zero?
                                Tested with black probe on ground?

                                Still need part number for item on heat sink and test on mosfet
                                Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                • crdz66
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Nov 2012
                                  • 242
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Elefw327 won't turn on

                                  Part number 10100ctp
                                  reading 228 and 230 on the edges. Negative center pin.
                                  Regulators show almost 0
                                  connector cn6 besides cn1 show 3.4.-3.7 volts with little fluctuations on pin 1,2

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                                  • selldoor
                                    Slow Learner
                                    • Dec 2010
                                    • 7870

                                    #18
                                    Re: Elefw327 won't turn on

                                    reading 228 and 230 on the edges. Negative center pin.
                                    Regulators show almost 0

                                    You are going to have to be better at saying what you re thinking and need to state units
                                    volts.ohms whatever
                                    What is reading 228 and 230 volts or ohms

                                    Regulators show almost 0

                                    On all pins - volts with respect to a ground screw?

                                    We cant SEE what you are doing
                                    Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                    • crdz66
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Nov 2012
                                      • 242
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Elefw327 won't turn on

                                      ok. sorry.

                                      The transistor on cold side show 230 ohms on the edges with diode function on dmm
                                      The transistor on hot side looking by front with legs 1-2-3 from left to right readings starting red probe on 1 on negative on 2, etc
                                      1-2 : no read
                                      1-3 : no read
                                      2-1 : no read
                                      2-3 : no read
                                      3-1 : no read
                                      3-2 : 545 ohms

                                      These transistors was testing out from the board.
                                      The regulators was testing with 120 vac connect to the tv.
                                      I was used the voltmeter on scale the 2volts because more volts show 0 all the time.
                                      And yes everything was tested with ground screw.
                                      Last edited by crdz66; 07-18-2014, 04:33 PM.

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