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  • pentium
    Badcaps Legend
    • Mar 2006
    • 2778
    • Canada

    #41
    Re: Done with Win7

    Whoever said "PENGUIN POWER" needs to be put back in line.
    Ease of use wise (the basics like internet, mail, and office work) it's okay but once you want to do something cool with it, you got all sorts of barriers from poorly designed coding workspaces to dependencies and libraries that seem to be out of date withing days and enough coders who read how to code in the first palce off the back of a cereal box to make your head spin.
    Then there is ubuntu which goes out of date every six months.
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    • ratdude747
      Black Sheep
      • Nov 2008
      • 17136
      • USA

      #42
      Re: Done with Win7

      Originally posted by pentium
      Whoever said "PENGUIN POWER" needs to be put back in line.
      Ease of use wise (the basics like internet, mail, and office work) it's okay but once you want to do something cool with it, you got all sorts of barriers from poorly designed coding workspaces to dependencies and libraries that seem to be out of date withing days and enough coders who read how to code in the first palce off the back of a cereal box to make your head spin.
      Then there is ubuntu which goes out of date every six months.
      I said it and i am proud of my choice to use linux.

      out of date? no, it gets a refresh every 6 months sou you get the best of what is out there. every normal release is supported for 18 months, while every LTS release gets 3 for desktop ed., and 5 for server ed.

      windoze might be supported longer but since 'buntu is free, it is not a can't afford issue, it is find a convenient time a "select upgrade to ____" in the update manger, say yes to 2 dialogs, and let it to its thing. easy. not the driver hell known as a windows update...

      bottom line; we all have our preferences... they can clash...
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      • PCBONEZ
        Grumpy Old Fart
        • Aug 2005
        • 10661
        • USA

        #43
        Re: Done with Win7

        Originally posted by pentium
        Then there is ubuntu which goes out of date every six months.
        As I recall the original release of XP required a patch to get USB working which means it was 'out of date' BEFORE it was released.
        -
        The six month cycle is to accommodate the same issues as MS does with updates and service packs of which when it comes to MS there are generally 100's for each OS version.
        If that amounts to 'out of date' then MS is 'out of date' on a monthly basis.

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        • PCBONEZ
          Grumpy Old Fart
          • Aug 2005
          • 10661
          • USA

          #44
          Re: Done with Win7

          Not to mention Windows has Security flaws that are almost as old as you are.
          http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/new...ndows-flaw.ars
          Mann-Made Global Warming.
          - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

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          • Junk Parts
            Court Jester
            • Jun 2006
            • 8953
            • USA

            #45
            Re: Done with Win7

            The only OS that I had that ended up broken every few weeks was Windows ME. Never could figure out why it was broken. Funny thing is that I liked ME. I got Xp Pro and hated it. Killed it off and put ME back on. In time After revisiting XP a few times I found the settings I needed to change and it became my OS of choice. I always run Xp with Sp3. Xp does what I want to do with no nag screens. It keeps quiet and does its job. Did try my Vista a few times. Vista is a true dog! I don't even know where the CD is now and I don't care. Windows 7 is better but not by much. Its not intuitive or straight forward in any way. Maybe the newer PC using generation likes to have and OS that holds there hands the whole way but I don't. When the time comes I hope there are some good people out there who will capture all of the MS Xp updates and offer them online. Hell I'd love to have them on a DVD right now!
            "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."
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            • Per Hansson
              Super Moderator
              • Jul 2005
              • 5895
              • Sweden

              #46
              Re: Done with Win7

              Originally posted by pentium
              Whoever said "PENGUIN POWER" needs to be put back in line.
              Ease of use wise (the basics like internet, mail, and office work) it's okay but once you want to do something cool with it, you got all sorts of barriers from poorly designed coding workspaces to dependencies and libraries that seem to be out of date withing days and enough coders who read how to code in the first palce off the back of a cereal box to make your head spin.
              Then there is ubuntu which goes out of date every six months.
              And this is different vs Windows how?

              Sorry I just could not resist
              "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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              • acstech
                GrumpyModerator
                • Jul 2007
                • 1432
                • USA

                #47
                Re: Done with Win7

                Originally posted by pentium
                Whoever said "PENGUIN POWER" needs to be put back in line.
                Ease of use wise (the basics like internet, mail, and office work) it's okay but once you want to do something cool with it, you got all sorts of barriers from poorly designed coding workspaces to dependencies and libraries that seem to be out of date withing days and enough coders who read how to code in the first palce off the back of a cereal box to make your head spin.
                Then there is ubuntu which goes out of date every six months.
                He's entitled to his opinion, just as you are to yours. Nobody needs to be "put back in line."

                Let's keep it civil.
                A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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                • Dgtech
                  E. Technician
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 1462
                  • Steeler

                  #48
                  Re: Done with Win7

                  Simply put, since computer processor speeds have hit a ceiling and havent changed within the last 6 years or so, there is no need for a new operating system from Microshaft. Seriously, what can they improve on without hardware changing first?? At least nothing that would be worth a new OS for everyone to buy. PC hardware changes has brought about changes within the operating systems. With hardware not changing much right now, and there is no demand for it, this is the brick wall.

                  All of the " Icing on the cake " is overrated with Vista and Win7. I have a feeling that microshaft knows that they cant do much more with an OS so this is why they went full force with the Droid, which makes sense.

                  Correct me if I am wrong but:
                  Didnt microshaft make an icon based OS after apple made one first?
                  Didnt microshaft make the Zune AFTER apple made the Ipod?
                  Didnt microshaft make the Droid AFTER apple made the Iphone?

                  Microsoft has bitten off of other's hard work and innovation.
                  Just a thought...
                  The strong-minded rise to the challenge of their goals,the weak-minded BECOME HATERS

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                  • Junk Parts
                    Court Jester
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 8953
                    • USA

                    #49
                    Re: Done with Win7

                    Microshaft is already hard at work on Windows 8 and that is a fact...
                    "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."
                    Mark Twain

                    "I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way."
                    John Paul Jones

                    There is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.
                    Rod Serling

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                    • Topcat
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                      • Oct 2003
                      • 16956
                      • United States

                      #50
                      Re: Done with Win7

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                      • stj
                        Great Sage 齊天大聖
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 30979
                        • Albion

                        #51
                        Re: Done with Win7

                        Originally posted by Dgtech
                        Simply put, since computer processor speeds have hit a ceiling and havent changed within the last 6 years or so,
                        no, that's bus speeds.

                        cpu's have increasing cache, wider pipelines, parallel cores etc.

                        only micro$oft thinks the o.s. should soak this up though.
                        coming from the amiga, i see it as the o.s. should be small & fast and it's the app's that may max the system out.

                        i want to download a torrent, browse the web, compile 600,000 lines of "c" code and play mp3's all at the same time with 1gig of ram.
                        and still not see any slowdowns.

                        and i do just that - but not with windoze.

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                        • stj
                          Great Sage 齊天大聖
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 30979
                          • Albion

                          #52
                          Re: Done with Win7

                          Originally posted by Junk Parts
                          Microshaft is already hard at work on Windows 8 and that is a fact...
                          vista + win7 diff-patch + new skin + new version-file = win8

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                          • Junk Parts
                            Court Jester
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 8953
                            • USA

                            #53
                            Re: Done with Win7

                            And what was wrong with Xp Media Center? I have a virgin unopened copy of it here. Soon as I find a Dell COA for it I'll use it. If this dog can run full boat bloat windows 7 premium I'm sure it can handle Xp Media Center.
                            "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."
                            Mark Twain

                            "I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way."
                            John Paul Jones

                            There is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.
                            Rod Serling

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