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  • MiG
    Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 28

    #1

    Optiarc

    Do Sony-NEC models of DVDRW burners meet quality standards like Pioneer? Are they good enough or at least better than Samsung-Toshiba and LG-Hitachi concern?
  • Phaihn
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    • Jan 2009
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    #2
    Re: Optiarc

    Read what it says on the label it should tell you what you need to know
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    • Phaihn
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      • Jan 2009
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      #3
      Re: Optiarc

      er well for safety standards that is.
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      • digge
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        • Apr 2006
        • 296

        #4
        Re: Optiarc

        Depends on what you mean with quality. However most brands these days buys the units more or less ready made from each other. Plextor for instance that used to make among the best burners money could buy no longer manufactures their own drives. Don't remember what brand they use but essentially you can buy the same drive for half price if its the original brand rather then Plextor, only difference is another name on the front and i think less warranty.

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        • willawake
          Super Modulator
          • Nov 2003
          • 8457
          • Greece

          #5
          Re: Optiarc

          i have one optiarc in the office. seems ok. everything is crap cos of the price these days
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          • Per Hansson
            Super Moderator
            • Jul 2005
            • 5895
            • Sweden

            #6
            Re: Optiarc

            digge; Plextor = Pioneer

            http://club.cdfreaks.com/f43/plextor...ctures-224142/
            "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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            • MiG
              Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 28

              #7
              Re: Optiarc

              I thought if Optiarc (Sony NEC concern) drives are equally good or better in work (R/W) as HLDS and TSST drives.

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              • i4004
                Badcaps Legend
                • Oct 2006
                • 2029

                #8
                Re: Optiarc

                of those 3 mfrs you mention hitachi-lg is probably best...
                and with differences being pretty small overall...and getting smaller by the day...

                also you can put pioneer in same category too, it's not like pioneer is rolls royce of optical drives...
                just look at its price...it's the same as others, so quality is too, it's not really any better....

                >Plextor for instance that used to make among the best burners money could buy no longer manufactures their own drives.

                i find that highly relaztive; how was plextor "best"?
                burned media did best in qiuality scans?
                but i don't realyl think it did.
                plextor was charging a hefty premium on the price, and that's why they are not with us anymore..and i say "good riddance, assholes".
                hehe...

                before plextor it was yamaha...and only because they were amongst first to make burners overall...

                so all that brand loyalty and deciding upon price(ie like "plextor=expensive=good") of the burner is crap in todays world, i would say.

                overall best strategy is to have a lite-on burner on which you can test burns made with other burners...
                burns with least errors are made with good burners....also, good burners usually burn most blank media types(mfrs) with very small amount of errors....
                weird thing is this: today it's is pretty easy to make a burn which beats the pressed media when it comes to PI/PO errors.
                one can expect such media to last pretty long time.

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                • KeriJane
                  Mac Enthusiast
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 681
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Optiarc

                  Hi i4004

                  In defense of Plextor:

                  I used two of their first generation SATA burners with 8mb cache for small production runs of DVDs. They were the PX-716SA.

                  Burning two disks at once I never had any coasters. That's over a 2-3 year period with something on the order of a thousand disks burnt. Periodic checks of random disks revealed no errors .... ever! which I thought was odd.

                  Never any returns or complaints either.

                  Were they worth the money? Absolutely. They are still functional after years of constant use. Even if the die right now, the results and lack of hassle was worth it.

                  Can you get one for one quarter the price that's nearly as good? Sure. Probably.

                  The Pioneer drive in my Mac Pro seems as good and cost about half of one of the Plextors. But I don't do a lot of volume nowdays so could Pioneer keep up?

                  Sad to the see the end of Plextor as we knew it,
                  Keri

                  PS. My favorite budget burner remains Samsung. I've never gotten a complaint from any of my builds with a Samsung.
                  Last edited by KeriJane; 08-17-2009, 05:23 PM.
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                  • Phaihn
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 842
                    • Canada

                    #10
                    Re: Optiarc

                    Picked up a new DVD/CD Burner for my parents computer i think its A samsung Toshiba

                    it was 31$ before taxes.
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                    • ratdude747
                      Black Sheep
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 17136
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Optiarc

                      is there a reason why none of my LG-hitavhi drives work right?
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                      • Per Hansson
                        Super Moderator
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 5895
                        • Sweden

                        #12
                        Re: Optiarc

                        i4004; I don't quite agree with you on Plextor
                        Their previous designs that where their own where the best drives I knew to read damaged discs etc, discs that where hard to read that no other burner was able to...

                        Where they overpriced? Yea, perhaps, but IMO they where the best
                        Nowdays they are just like everyone else

                        Note that I have never owned a Plextor made drive myself, just the Pioneer rebrand 810SA...

                        EDIT; Optiarc is AFAIK a big OEM manufacturer also making most of the drives for other brands?
                        "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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                        • i4004
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 2029

                          #13
                          Re: Optiarc

                          >Their previous designs that where their own where the best drives I knew to read damaged discs etc, discs that where hard to read that no other burner was able to...

                          you mean like this(images attached)?

                          do i need to tell you how many readers/burners are perfectly fine with such discs...

                          those with crappier readers can try such stuff
                          http://www.geocities.com/marsoupilamis/

                          is there any real evidence that plextor reads better, ie like extremely crappy kprobe scan, and then you established only plextor reads it, among at least 10 other burners?

                          is there evidence that it writes better, in simillar test?

                          keri jane
                          >That's over a 2-3 year period with something on the order of a thousand disks burnt.

                          i probably burnt as much with lg 4167b...still going strong...
                          so afaik, this review
                          http://www.cdfreaks.com/review/110-L...Writer-Review/
                          spot on!

                          ratdude
                          >is there a reason why none of my LG-hitavhi drives work right?

                          yes, linux folks don't know how to make proper device drivers...
                          Attached Files

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                          • Krankshaft
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                            • Jan 2007
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                            #14
                            Re: Optiarc

                            I have an LG DVD-RW and it works fine for me. Had it since 04. Doesn't get lots of use though.

                            It takes so long to ready after inserting ANY disc though it drives me crazy .
                            Last edited by Krankshaft; 08-18-2009, 07:31 PM.
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                            • ratdude747
                              Black Sheep
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 17136
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Optiarc

                              i got a bunch of LG-hitachi drives as dell pulls at Purdue surplus. not a single one worked right. they were dvd-rom/cd-rw
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                              • weirdlookinguy
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 1638

                                #16
                                Re: Optiarc

                                Just got a new Optiarc SATA DVD burner for my box. It was the only drive without a zillion stupid logos on the front. It will see moderate use, I'll let you guys know how it does over time. Right now it's doing great, but that is to be expected from a 9-hour-old drive.

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                                • Topcat
                                  The Boss Stooge
                                  • Oct 2003
                                  • 16956
                                  • United States

                                  #17
                                  Re: Optiarc

                                  I have a Sony/NEC (optiarc) DVD and DVDRW. Both are SATA, and so far, both have worked fine. Had them about 2 weeks. All opticals are pretty cheesy these days, as someone mentioned, it's all about price. I wouldn't touch a plextor today with a 10ft pole. I have some older SCSI plextor CD and CDRW drives (circa 1998~2002), they still work fine today. The last ATA plextors I bought (around 2004~2005) all died within a year. Shameful for Plextor.
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                                  • Player2
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Aug 2009
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                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Optiarc

                                    I'm using an Optiarc BD-ROM / DVD-RW drive in my laptop. Had it since March, so far it's working great. I do most of my burning on a desktop, but I burned several ISOs recently on the Optiarc with no problems.

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                                    • PCBONEZ
                                      Grumpy Old Fart
                                      • Aug 2005
                                      • 10661
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Optiarc

                                      Plextor Optical drives went all OEM several years ago.
                                      Plextor doesn't actually -manufacture- optical drives anymore and hasn't for a while.
                                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plextor
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                                      • PCBONEZ
                                        Grumpy Old Fart
                                        • Aug 2005
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Optiarc

                                        Originally posted by ratdude747
                                        i got a bunch of LG-hitachi drives as dell pulls at Purdue surplus. not a single one worked right. they were dvd-rom/cd-rw
                                        Those usually need a firmware update to get them right.
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