Goodbye Windows Hello Ubuntu

[mockingbird]

Re: Goodbye Windows Hello Ubuntu

If they are kept away from the internet and are used for data entry there isn't much of a problem.

They are, but hypothetically, an XP machine with POSReady updates should be as secure and protected from zero-day threats as any Vista/7/8/10 machine. Perhaps even moreso, since XP is more mature.

Legality doesn't change depending if it is checked or not, it breaks their EULA and as they are charging a good deal extra to support them i'd have thought they were quite keen to clamp down. I know the UK Met and parts of the NHS have coughed up a few million £ to keep their patches coming.

It breaks the EULA of the patch, and the original product for which the patch was intended for isn't owned by the proprietor, so the EULA doesn't apply. It is a grey area for sure, but it isn't illegal, and any systems administrator worth his salt would undoubtedly keep vigilant in updating his XP systems with these patches.

I don't think POSready is a full version of XP so even fully patched, parts of XP that are not used by POSready will fail to be updated.

It's XP allright, just with a few minor changes.

[diif]

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Vista/7/8/10 have more security features such as ASLR and is more secure than XP by default.

It breaks the EULA of the original XP and probably the EULA of the patch.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/hacked-...ll-a-bad-idea/ suggests it doesn't work fully.

Any Admin worth his salt would have moved on the moment his tight company asked him to patch XP this dodgy way.

[mockingbird]

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Vista/7/8/10 have more security features such as ASLR and is more secure than XP by default.

That's debatable.

It breaks the EULA of the original XP and probably the EULA of the patch.

No it doesn't break XP's EULA, and you can't break POSReady 2009's EULA, because you don't have that OS. Either way, without getting into specifics, if a BSA auditor went to inspect a company, he would be perfectly happy as long as each PC was properly licensed. Like I said, he's not going to go around and compare DLL file versions to see if someone's using POSReady patches.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/hacked-...ll-a-bad-idea/ suggests it doesn't work fully.

It works, and it works quite well. What doesn't work is simply doing the 'hack' he mentioned. At the RyanVM forum, there's an active list of appropriate updates that's maintained. You can't just change your Windows ID to POSReady and use Microsoft Update, that's for sure.

Any Admin worth his salt would have moved on the moment his tight company asked him to patch XP this dodgy way.

Apparently you've never heard of something called a budget. Let's see, spend tens of thousands of dollars upgrading your equipment and whatnot for something you don't need, or stay with something that works just as well, and that your employees are already used to?

Management doesn't care how it gets done, only that it gets done. If I'm a systems admin and management comes to me and asks me what to do, I'd offer up both options and list the costs of each, and then fully expect them to choose the former.

I'd then be saving myself the hundreds of hours of unecessary headache, and then I'd ask for a large raise at the end of the year, and I'd get it, because I saved the company so much money. Everyone is happy this way, and this is the way a smart sysadmin should think.

[shovenose]

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Ok, so Spotify is supposed to work under Ubuntu, I followed their official directions, but it is compeltely broken (does not open).

[SteveNielsen]

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Bummer. Especially considering there's no other way to get free music from the internet.

[stj]

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any time something does that,
open a terminal window and run it from the command line.

then you can see the error message(s) and fix it.
it probably wants a library you dont have installed.

** this trick also works with windows.

[stj]

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Bummer. Especially considering there's no other way to get free music from the internet.

there are thousands of free music sources,
most radio stations (real ones) also stream.

examples
http://www.pointblank.fm/listen_live.php
http://vibesfm.net/radio2.htm
http://192.240.102.195:8220/listen.pls
http://ontopfm.net/player/

and you have specialised ones like these
http://www.broadcastify.com/
http://www.scenemusic.net/

[SteveNielsen]

Re: Goodbye Windows Hello Ubuntu

Bummer. Especially considering there's no other way to get free music from the internet.

there are thousands of free music sources,
most radio stations (real ones) also stream.

examples
http://www.pointblank.fm/listen_live.php
http://vibesfm.net/radio2.htm
http://192.240.102.195:8220/listen.pls
http://ontopfm.net/player/

and you have specialised ones like these
http://www.broadcastify.com/
http://www.scenemusic.net/

I thought sometimes the sarcasm is obvious enough to not need to point it out, but I guess I was wrong.

[stj]

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well yes, you need to specify

/sarc

to avoid confusion.

[RJARRRPCGP]

Re: Goodbye Windows Hello Ubuntu

any time something does that,
open a terminal window and run it from the command line.

then you can see the error message(s) and fix it.
it probably wants a library you dont have installed.

** this trick also works with windows.

I always found that means dependency hell!

[shovenose]

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Nah, I just went back to Windows. But had this problem: http://www.michaelstaake.com/windows...tem-partition/

[SteveNielsen]

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Windows doesn't like boot sectors and MBRs written by other OSes. Hell, it doesn't even recognize its own if you run fixboot or fixmbr from recovery console.

[stj]

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lol - use a linux live disk to delete all the partitions.
i used to have similar problems btw with windows98 and scsi drives - it's not a new problem.

[SteveNielsen]

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Yep, not a new problem at all. I think erasing track zero will do the trick as well. A zero-fill DEFINITELY will

[shovenose]

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No I did dod wipe same issue also same issue on Dell vostro 2420 running 10 before.

[stj]

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put opensuse or fedora on it - those are the real big ones (unlike ubuntu that just has the hype)

[shovenose]

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put opensuse or fedora on it - those are the real big ones (unlike ubuntu that just has the hype)

I like Fedora a lot actually. It's closer to CentOS (which is what I use on my server) but I wanted to try Xubuntu as a daily driver because it's a little bit more mainstream. But Windows 7 runs faster and works with all of my applications

[ratdude747]

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I find that on my stuff (my laptops at least) Arch runs pretty well, on par with Win 7. That said, arch is not for noobs and never will be, hence why it runs so well (less overhead by way of crap one doesn't need, such as SElinux). I tend to dual boot though, as there are a few programs I use that don't work in linux and in case arch has a burp, I have some sort of a backup (also good for people like my wife who don't know gnome 3.x).