My old system has a Intel core 2 quad Q8200. It's 2.33GHZ, 4MB cache 1333 MHZ FSB socket 775. I was wondering if a Q9650 3.0 GHZ 12 MB cache 1333 MHZ FSB socket 775 might be way faster and bring this back up to speed. It's starting to get slow with the bloated software today. Firefox almost stops before I finish surfing these days. I can get one for less than $100 on the bay. Is this thing salvageable or should I think of just starting over.
-
sigpicThe Sky Is Falling
-
Re: Swapping CPU's
You'd see a bigger speed difference switching to a SSD rather than that CPU upgrade. -
Re: Swapping CPU's
The "old" processor should be more than enough to surf the web and run firefox. I'm running a computer about 50% slower and I have no problems.
What OS are you running? How much DRAM do you have?
What exactly is slow? Browsing to all sites or just one?--- begin sig file ---
If you are new to this forum, we can help a lot more if you please post clear focused pictures (max resolution 2000x2000 and 2MB) of your boards using the manage attachments button so they are hosted here. Information and picture clarity compositions should look like this post.
We respectfully ask that you make some time and effort to read some of the guides available for basic troubleshooting. After you have read through them, then ask clarification questions or report your findings.
Please do not post inline and offsite as they slow down the loading of pages.
--- end sig file ---Comment
-
Re: Swapping CPU's
For the SSD, I've got 4 1TB drives in it now with plans for 4 3TB WD enterprise drives. I have 3 now and will get the last soon. I have a video card for 8 cameras for home security and need the storage space. It's a backup for the DVR.
I'm running windows 7 64 bit. I've got 8 Gigs of ram. It's the Asus P5Q-E so I've maxed it out. It's fast enough for surfing for about an hour but then it starts loading new pages slower and slower until I have to wait about 3 minutes for a new page to load. Then I quit in frustration and start over and it's fast again for a while. I have noticed that it's been slowing faster lately, now I get about a half an hour of reading before it almost stops. I used to make it about 5 forums before it slowed to a crawl, now I get about 3 forums. It's in an older case with less than optimal cooling. I've been considering a new case with better cooling and wire management. Until lately I saw no reason to change the processor or MB but now I wonder if I need too. I run Malwarebytes with Adaware and Avast. I'm wondering if one of them has changed. I used to run Spybot until they changed it. I have Zone Alarm as well.Last edited by rhomanski; 06-06-2015, 02:23 AM.sigpicThe Sky Is FallingComment
-
Re: Swapping CPU's
Try this also
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/down...-removal-tool/
Doesn't sound like a hardware issue to me.
Is all your software up to date ?Comment
-
Re: Swapping CPU's
Yeah software's up to date, I've downloaded that cleaner and will install and give it a shot.sigpicThe Sky Is FallingComment
-
Re: Swapping CPU's
So far so good. It deleted a lot of crap. It does seem zippier though.sigpicThe Sky Is FallingComment
-
Re: Swapping CPU's
Also try malwarebytes in safemode. Certain strains like Zeus will be hidden otherwise.
http://www.surfright.nl/en/hitmanpro/ is also good for a one off check/clean.
If you haven't used it yes. Run ccleaner after checking which options for browsing you want to keep/clean. It makes scanning quicker and cleans up space. Avoid the registry cleaner part.Comment
-
Re: Swapping CPU's
Really doesn't seem hardware related to me either. A Q8200 is a bit faster than my i5 520M is and I can browse the web all day with no slowdowns,same 8 gigs ram.
I'd start by checking to make sure you aren't somehow running out of ram. If not that anything eating CPU usage, such as a certain tab or an extension that's run away.Comment
-
Re: Swapping CPU's
Actually I think for most people's use, the i5-520M is faster than the Q8200 because most stuff can't be multithreaded. If you run multithreadded stuff then it may sway the other way.
I still think my C2D E6700 is "fast enough" even though I use my i7-2700k most of the time, then again the i7 is tremendously faster than the C2D (and even my C2Q).
Then again my i7 and i5 have SSDs too :o So they're cheating...Comment
-
Re: Swapping CPU's
this whole thread is strange, a raspberry pie runs a browser just fine.
have you opened the machine and made sure the cpu heatsink isnt lined wih a carpet?Comment
-
Re: Swapping CPU's
Oh, it's all software related. The browser seems to be fixed. I still have one problem. Recently the nag started in on me that 5 or 6 programs had new versions out, so I finally broke down and spent the afternoon updating. Before it would idle at about 2 to 4% cpu usage. After it uses 30% to 40% cpu at all times when on the internet. Off the internet it drops back to 2 to 4 again. Checking task manager just shows system resources using all that cpu time. One of those updated programs is a resource hog. I just don't know which one. I can't remember which programs updated. Usually it's the virus programs and ccleaner or glary or something. I'm starting to be nagged now that ccleaner has a new version out. That's why I was thinking about a new box. It's about 80 in this corner now and speed fan says the motherboard is at 117 F. The hard drives have a fan blowing on them so there at 100F. One core says 150F the next 130F and the next two 145F. So that program is keeping the cores cooking. Any idea which program was updated recently and turned into a resource greedy little bitch?sigpicThe Sky Is FallingComment
-
Re: Swapping CPU's
I ran the hitman and it found one problem and a bunch of cookies with xxx in the title. After the updating orgy, I ran Malwarebytes and it found one program. After it removed it I started getting a sys com window and an error message saying so and so was missing on startup. Hitman has fixed that. I don't know why those virus programs couldn't have gotten all of it instead of just half.
It never ceases to amaze me how 10 people sitting in their parents basement can cause 600 million people so much misery. Sitting down there and laughing about it. Maybe I should put this in the what pisses you off thread.
Anyway you guys have helped me out quite a bit, thank you. I owe you a beer if your ever in the neighborhood.
If you can help me figure out what's the resource hog I'll be doing fine again.sigpicThe Sky Is FallingComment
-
Re: Swapping CPU's
"10 people sitting in their parents basement" is a myth.
your dealing with hundreds of coders working for government agency's and large companys sitting at desks in large offices.Comment
-
Re: Swapping CPU's
Your probably right. So many people spend there lives spreading evil instead of good.sigpicThe Sky Is FallingComment
-
Re: Swapping CPU's
one day someone will find out where some of this stuff goes on, and will burst in and empty a drum-mag into them.
i look forward to that day - it will be a good deterant.Comment
-
Re: Swapping CPU's
The above two statements have me confused. One on hand, you say it is software related. Then you say you want a new desktop hardware.
Your current desktop specs are more than adequate to run simple firefox browsing. My computer is 50 to 60% slower and I only have 2GB DRAM installed and I have no problems with running multiple tabs and multi-tasking. When idle, it sits at 0% CPU utilization.
Heck, even my P4s with 512MB DRAM run fine for browsing.
As I see it you have two options.
1) Backup all your data and do a complete new fresh install of Windows 7. Use just one anti virus program and minimal or no extensions in firefox. Use this minimal configuration for one day. If CPU is 0% when idle and you have a stable setup, then slowly add one program back. Then monitor for one day. If stable, add another program back.
2) When I get complaints from friends/family about a slow computer, I ask what programs they need and then start un-installing everything else. Some of computers I get have multiple anti virus programs installed and running at the same time, out of date programs, questionable drivers and browser add-ons. All get uninstalled.
Pick an option and then we can make more suggestions.
PS. I find the free version malwarebytes usually does a good job at removing any suspicious programs.Last edited by retiredcaps; 06-06-2015, 04:12 PM.--- begin sig file ---
If you are new to this forum, we can help a lot more if you please post clear focused pictures (max resolution 2000x2000 and 2MB) of your boards using the manage attachments button so they are hosted here. Information and picture clarity compositions should look like this post.
We respectfully ask that you make some time and effort to read some of the guides available for basic troubleshooting. After you have read through them, then ask clarification questions or report your findings.
Please do not post inline and offsite as they slow down the loading of pages.
--- end sig file ---Comment
-
Re: Swapping CPU's
No need to be confused. It is software related. New hardware though is faster and will run all of it without a problem. Getting rid of software will help or new faster hardware. It's plenty usable now, I'd like to know what's running the CPU so hard. If it goes like last time, I'll end up with a fresh install anyway when I put the new drives in. Microsoft shut me down the last time because I changed too much hardware. Windows monitors that now. It said I had to contact MS so I just did a fresh install.sigpicThe Sky Is FallingComment
-
Re: Swapping CPU's
search the web for a windows equiv of the linux "top" command.
it looks like this.Attached FilesComment
-
-
Re: Swapping CPU's
Download process explorer and have a look at what is using allot of resources:
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/.../bb896653.aspx
I attached an example picture for a problem on my work computer, it's related to Symantec Endpoint protection using allot of "system" CPU time when the definition files are updated.
But you can't find that out with Windows built in "task manager"
But with process explorer I can open up the process "system" and see how much CPU time is used by it's parent processes...Attached Files"The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."Comment
-
-
Now that I have your attention:
In the last few days, it looks like Firefox has changed their software terms so they are now evil and WILL sell your data.
I already use Palemoon for Win7 sometimes. Looks like I'll be switching to librewolf as well, as Youtuber Louis Rossman suggests. Palemoon still supports Win7, but sometimes pages don't work properly. The Google Chrome browser might also still work for Win7.
I will have no choice but to upgrade my Firefox, so that I can copy dozens of tabs into a document or spreadsheet, or go through the history to... -
I have been working to develop a consistent and reliable method/workflow for removing, re-balling, and replacing CPUs on various MacBook Pro models (2015-2020).
I have done OK so far, but there's one detail I need to sort out. I'm hoping someone much more experienced than myself may be able to shed some light:
I am noticing the pulled CPUs (to be re-balled) come off fine, and they "look" fine as well, immediately when I pull them. However, within a few minutes, after cooling, the CPU chips develop a very, very slight curve/bend. It's SO SLIGHT, maybe a 1-2%... -
Hi guys!
I have a Dell Optiplex 760 USFF (Ultra-Small Form-Factor).
It currently only supports Dual-Core CPUs and will halt with an error message, when a QuadCore is installed.
I have seen people running QuadCores in these machines, but the BIOS needs to be modded.
Since I have not found the modded BIOS to download anywhere, I am asking you guys for help:
Could you please add support for QuadCore CPUs (in my case the Core2Quad Q9550) to the BIOS?
I have attached the Dump of my machine.
S/N: SRW2K4J
Reg Model: DCTR...09-27-2024, 02:43 AM -
Hello. I mostly do small electronics and tv repairs. I am confident with small bga chips but I never was successful with removing large chips especially cpus. Is it possible to remove them just using a preheater and hot air gun or I need something more advanced like a bga machine with temperature profiles, cooling fans, etc etc.
Any suggestion on aliexpress/ebay are welcomed. I am on a tight budget, max I can do is about 200$. Please anyone with more experience can give me some suggestions?
Thanks in advance.09-23-2024, 03:56 PM -
Hello everyone,
The operating system often hangs after any graphics operation like scroll/zoom/menu open/button click. It is the same after swapping all parts (CPUs: dual Opteron 2216 or 8435, RAM: 8x1GB or 8x4GB, power supply : 800W or 1000W, graphics card : original Quadro FX 3500 replaced with GeForce 7300 LE to decrease power) one at a time, and trying several operating systems (Windows 7/10, Linux, FreeBSD; 32 and 64 bit versions of all of them). But if the motherboard has been sleeping for months/years, the first few minutes are more stable before it warms up. This seems to come with...
Comment