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    #21
    Re: Unknown System Failure

    ~ Guessing ~
    Maybe AFU HDD was sending noise [ripple/EMI] back into the power rails and that toasted the RAM and Video card.
    Or, maybe some MOSFET or similar on the vid card let go hard and set a voltage spike into the rails.
    Or possibly both...

    Kind of strange everything shit itself at once.
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      #22
      Re: Unknown System Failure

      unless the earth has way above or below line voltage for a second and because the psu case is connected to the chassis and the chassis to the boards - the other voltages looked way out for a second!

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        #23
        Re: Unknown System Failure

        Solid amber power light is usually synonymous with 'fubar'

        Maybe worth popping open the PSU just to check it's all OK in there... I know it's working now, but it still could be having issues.

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          #24
          Re: Unknown System Failure

          I did inspect the PSU as well as every cap on the mobo. Everything looked as it should. The worst thing I found was some cooked thermal paste around the cpu. The cpu works so I guess it isn't toast as of yet. I will be looking for another 2.4 P4 cpu to replace it with. This thing has the 533mhz FSB. I think it will also support up to a 2.6 P4 non HT cpu. A better solution for its cpu cooling needs to be found too. I also stuck another HD in this thing and reinstalled Xp thinking that I had put my newer 80 gig WD in it. AS it turns out it was and older 30 gig WD. Now I get to do it all over again. I guess I do this while I drink some hurricane beers here this friday night.
          Last edited by Junk Parts; 09-01-2010, 06:12 PM.
          "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."
          Mark Twain

          "I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way."
          John Paul Jones

          There is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.
          Rod Serling

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            #25
            Re: Unknown System Failure

            they make a 2.8 ghz p4 with 533... my dell i am selling has one.
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              #26
              Re: Unknown System Failure

              Well I think this mobo tops out at 2.6mhz. It may not even see a 2.8 or it may just run it as a 2.6mhz.
              "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."
              Mark Twain

              "I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way."
              John Paul Jones

              There is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.
              Rod Serling

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                #27
                Re: Unknown System Failure

                dimes to doughnuts it will do a 2.8
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                  #28
                  Re: Unknown System Failure

                  Well I can get a P4 2.6,533,512 for $9 with free UPS ground shipping...LOL Same price for the 2.8. If I ever have money I just might get both.
                  "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."
                  Mark Twain

                  "I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way."
                  John Paul Jones

                  There is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.
                  Rod Serling

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                    #29
                    Re: Unknown System Failure

                    bad 478 chips are rare.i wouldnt loose sleep over it!
                    and you just gotta love multiple failures like you just had!

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                      #30
                      Re: Unknown System Failure

                      I'm telling you Kc it did send me mental! Now from what I have learned so far is that the fastest 533FSB Non HT cpu that came in this 4550 was a P4 3.06mhz, 533FSB chip. My unit has the Norwood core P4 2.4, 533FSB chip. If it is infact a plug and play upgrade and I can find one of these chips real cheap I'll try it. Hope you are feeling well today... Oh the old PIII ended up in the parts bin. I remember it being and ok computer but never as nice as the exact same 1gig cpu running on and Abit VL-6. The Dell PIII can't even keep up with this sick 2.4 P4.
                      Last edited by Junk Parts; 09-02-2010, 11:43 AM.
                      "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."
                      Mark Twain

                      "I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way."
                      John Paul Jones

                      There is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.
                      Rod Serling

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                        #31
                        Re: Unknown System Failure

                        The Dimension 4550 has an Intel 845PE chipset - supports hyperthreading.
                        It is limited to CPUs with a max of 512k cache.

                        There should be a setting in the BIOS to turn hyperthreading off if you don't want it.
                        .

                        This list is for an Intel board but it supports the same CPUs your does.
                        http://www.intel.com/support/motherb.../CS-020051.htm

                        You might find a 2.8Ghz costs a lot less than a 3.06 Ghz because the 3.06 is the max CPU for a lot of boards. - That's how it used to be anyway, but I haven't looked at [shopped for] those in a long time.

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                        Mann-Made Global Warming.
                        - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.
                        -
                        Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
                        - Dr Seuss
                        -
                        You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
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                          #32
                          Re: Unknown System Failure

                          More info found...

                          - The chipset supports hyperthreading.
                          - You are limited to 400 or 533 FSB.
                          - You are limited to P4 CPU's with 512k cache because of the chipset.

                          Of those CPUs with 400/533 FSB and 512k cache the only ones with hyperthreading are the 3.06GHz/533FSB with one of the following sspecs:
                          SL6S5, SL6SM, SL6QC, SL6PG, SL6JJ, SL6K7

                          CPU data here:
                          http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27499

                          Dell even says it works right here:
                          http://support.dell.com/support/edoc...0/syssetup.htm

                          .
                          Mann-Made Global Warming.
                          - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.
                          -
                          Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
                          - Dr Seuss
                          -
                          You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                          -

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                            #33
                            Re: Unknown System Failure

                            Now all I need do is find one of these rare chips that you listed and then enable hyperthreading in my bios. The new cpu should then be listed twice! This Pimp is so happy now he is going to have a beer sometime today to go with this great news! This is after I pick up my friend when they let him out of the hospital today. This is also after I go to the boneyard to grab to brand new rotors off a 99 suzuki sedan. Why put all brand new brakes on a car only to junk it? At $12.50 each I can't pass them up! I'm not hijacking this thread. Its still about a 4550 Dell system failure and a CPU upgrade. Have not been taking many of these of late. They are too strong.
                            "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."
                            Mark Twain

                            "I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way."
                            John Paul Jones

                            There is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.
                            Rod Serling

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                              #34
                              Re: Unknown System Failure

                              Like this:

                              http://desc.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nk...LH_TitleDesc=1

                              That's one where you'll have to keep checking for a good deal.
                              It's the max [best possible] for a LOT of systems and that drives the price up.

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                              Last edited by PCBONEZ; 09-03-2010, 09:58 AM.
                              Mann-Made Global Warming.
                              - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.
                              -
                              Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
                              - Dr Seuss
                              -
                              You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                              -

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                                #35
                                Re: Unknown System Failure

                                Make sure it says all of 3.06GHz 512k 533FSB and lists one of the correct sspec numbers.

                                If it doesn't look right then ask the seller because there are lots of typos and mistakes in CPU ads.

                                .
                                Mann-Made Global Warming.
                                - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.
                                -
                                Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
                                - Dr Seuss
                                -
                                You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                                -

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                                  #36
                                  Re: Unknown System Failure

                                  And don't buy one from an idiot like this that puts a CPU pins-down on a carpet to take a pic of it.

                                  http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-P4-3-06GHz...item19bef6f1a5
                                  Mann-Made Global Warming.
                                  - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.
                                  -
                                  Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
                                  - Dr Seuss
                                  -
                                  You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                                  -

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                                    #37
                                    Re: Unknown System Failure

                                    Well first I'm going to get my brother to check with the two junk PC parts stores he deals with to see if they have one on the cheap.
                                    "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."
                                    Mark Twain

                                    "I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way."
                                    John Paul Jones

                                    There is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.
                                    Rod Serling

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                                      #38
                                      Re: Unknown System Failure

                                      Originally posted by PCBONEZ View Post
                                      And don't buy one from an idiot like this that puts a CPU pins-down on a carpet to take a pic of it.

                                      http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-P4-3-06GHz...item19bef6f1a5
                                      what is wrong? static?
                                      sigpic

                                      (Insert witty quote here)

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                                        #39
                                        Re: Unknown System Failure

                                        RD; Yes
                                        "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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                                          #40
                                          Re: Unknown System Failure

                                          wa wa wa...I want my 3.06 hyper threading thing right now! Found one on a blind call. The lady wanted $50 for it. Thats way too much in my book. Saw one on Fleabay for $25 "Buy It Now" Somehow I know I'll mess up on the specs and buy the wrong one. Then again I will be safe as long as a get one of the models that PCBONEZ posted.
                                          Last edited by Junk Parts; 09-03-2010, 01:43 PM.
                                          "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."
                                          Mark Twain

                                          "I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way."
                                          John Paul Jones

                                          There is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.
                                          Rod Serling

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