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  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 30965
    • Albion

    #1

    nice!

    http://gizmodo.com/5620423/amd-annou...-bulldozer-cpu
  • weirdlookinguy
    Badcaps Legend
    • Sep 2007
    • 1638

    #2
    Re: nice!

    Holy Tits!

    More of an Intel guy myself but... DAMN!! Kudos, AMD.

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    • acstech
      GrumpyModerator
      • Jul 2007
      • 1432
      • USA

      #3
      Re: nice!

      I might just have to get one of those.
      A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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      • mockingbird
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        • Dec 2008
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        #4
        Re: nice!

        So AMD eliminated SIMD (3dNow) and have deprecated it with their version of SSE.

        Unfortunately, Intel won't license SSE4.x to AMD, so AMD has taken to suing Intel and crying foul.

        Don't get me wrong... I despise Intel, even a little more than I despise AMD, but until AMD gets the later SSE4 iterations, their chips will fall behind Intel's.

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        • acstech
          GrumpyModerator
          • Jul 2007
          • 1432
          • USA

          #5
          Re: nice!

          So what affect will that have on programmers? As far as I can tell, their options are:

          1. Write it Intel only with SSE4.
          2. Write it twice, once for AMD and once for Intel.
          3. Write it to be compatible with both, and sacrifice performance.

          Which one do they usually pick?
          A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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          • mockingbird
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            • Dec 2008
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            #6
            Re: nice!

            They usually pick number 1, because they like to use Intel's compilers.

            As part of their settlement Intel has to make their compilers take advantage of SSE4a, but that's like telling two children to play nice together.

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            • stj
              Great Sage 齊天大聖
              • Dec 2009
              • 30965
              • Albion

              #7
              Re: nice!

              wrong, atleast now.
              in the past intel tools ruled,
              but with more & more use of Linux & OSX a lot of coders are using unified source and compilling with GCC.

              GCC has optimisation options,
              so you may still see 2 executables in the future.

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              • mockingbird
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                • Dec 2008
                • 5484
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                #8
                Re: nice!

                No, they're not programming games (And I am talking exclusively of games or video-related apps) with GCC. They're using Windows platform tools which have very mature SSE4.x code. Video encoding and graphics animation, Intel blows AMD away.

                Speaking of integer... Even the K6-2 was faster than the pentium 2 in integer apps.

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                • Phaihn
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 842
                  • Canada

                  #9
                  Re: nice!

                  eh lol i am still useing a socket 478 pentium 4 and its still better then any duel cores out today besides the i7
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                  • stj
                    Great Sage 齊天大聖
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 30965
                    • Albion

                    #10
                    Re: nice!

                    i never mentioned games.
                    a lot of scientific app's are compiled with GCC.

                    what is funny, i'v known coders to download GCC source and compile it with the intel compiler.

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                    • Per Hansson
                      Super Moderator
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 5895
                      • Sweden

                      #11
                      Re: nice!

                      Originally posted by Phaihn
                      eh lol i am still useing a socket 478 pentium 4 and its still better then any duel cores out today besides the i7
                      This^^
                      I loled

                      http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/c...hmarks,16.html
                      "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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                      • weirdlookinguy
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 1638

                        #12
                        Re: nice!

                        Originally posted by Phaihn
                        eh lol i am still useing a socket 478 pentium 4 and its still better then any duel cores out today besides the i7
                        That's hilarious.

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                        • ratdude747
                          Black Sheep
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 17136
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: nice!

                          wtf is a duel core ? two cores that fight each other for ram?
                          sigpic

                          (Insert witty quote here)

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                          • weirdlookinguy
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 1638

                            #14
                            Re: nice!

                            This is like a Honda Civic driver saying his car will kick the shit out of one of TC's Z cars

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                            • stj
                              Great Sage 齊天大聖
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 30965
                              • Albion

                              #15
                              Re: nice!

                              only when driving between bollards

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                              • toastygoodness
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Jul 2005
                                • 813
                                • United States

                                #16
                                Re: nice!

                                lol bollard runner fails.... man. seeing one live is just.... weird. can't really describe it.

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                                • stj
                                  Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                  • Dec 2009
                                  • 30965
                                  • Albion

                                  #17
                                  Re: nice!

                                  i used to see bollard incidents every day.
                                  there are a pair near me set as a width restriction to slow trafic & block trucks.

                                  it's funny, people with big cars just smoke through, but people with toys like civic's and escorts etc go real slow like they think the cars bigger than it is.

                                  anyway, the fun is when you get the van drivers from the courior company's.
                                  they smoke through these things and forget the wing mirrors stick out about a foot each side - boom!
                                  i swear the ground is covered in smashed plastic & bits of mirror every time i go past!

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                                  • toastygoodness
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Jul 2005
                                    • 813
                                    • United States

                                    #18
                                    Re: nice!

                                    lol ricer slowness fails eh?

                                    it must be fun to hear "ca clunk" or "bschcrack" all the time.

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                                    • stj
                                      Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                      • Dec 2009
                                      • 30965
                                      • Albion

                                      #19
                                      Re: nice!

                                      i'm only surprised that nobody has opened a carspares shop nearby!

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                                      • acstech
                                        GrumpyModerator
                                        • Jul 2007
                                        • 1432
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: nice!

                                        I thought we were discussing AMD's new processor?
                                        A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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