Who makes those fake eBay-Sanyos?

**brethin** · 07-06-2010, 05:03 AM

Re: Who makes those fake eBay-Sanyos?

Don't think they are fake, but I could be wrong.

Change Notice?

**Scenic** · 07-06-2010, 06:10 AM

Re: Who makes those fake eBay-Sanyos?

wouldn't trust that seller.

sells Nichicons with H3058 datecode (1930? 2030? week 58?!?) and some without a series marking..
also sells the infamous "Rudoycon" caps..

**kc8adu** · 07-06-2010, 06:21 AM

Re: Who makes those fake eBay-Sanyos?

kya?
is that what the seller will do if you buy these?
ROFLOL!

**sofTest** · 07-06-2010, 07:21 AM

Re: Who makes those fake eBay-Sanyos?

Originally posted by brethin

Don't think they are fake, but I could be wrong.

Change Notice?

It doesn't even match the description in the notice. Notice the extra dash on the cathode marking on the Suncon-description, the capital of the v (voltage). The two Sanyo-marked we see, isn't identical either. See the space between 6.3 and V.

**PCBONEZ** · 07-06-2010, 07:58 AM

Re: Who makes those fake eBay-Sanyos?

Originally posted by sofTest

Pretty revealing picture on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/6-3V-3300uF-Radi...item3f01328f4e

? - Sanyo - Suncon (uups, who put that one in there?

) - ? - Sanyo

Suncon are not fake Sanyo caps they ARE Sanyo caps.

Suncon is the subsidiary[branch] of Sanyo that has always been the actual manufacturer of Sanyo caps since 1958.

In other words Sanyo lytic caps -ARE- Suncon caps.
Always were. You just didn't know it.

Maybe a year ago,,, Sanyo decided to get out of the lytics business and go all solid polymer. They offered the subsidiary for sale.

The investors in the subsidiary 'bought themselves' from Sanyo and re-branded the product with their own name.

Suncon are legit Japanese 'good caps'.

....

Now as to that specific auction being legit Suncon...
I can't say.

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**PCBONEZ** · 07-06-2010, 08:06 AM

Re: Who makes those fake eBay-Sanyos?

Originally posted by sofTest

It doesn't even match the description in the notice. Notice the extra dash on the cathode marking on the Suncon-description, the capital of the v (voltage). The two Sanyo-marked we see, isn't identical either. See the space between 6.3 and V.

You can [or could] find the same PDF notice on Sanyos site if you look.
It's legit.
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**PCBONEZ** · 07-06-2010, 08:20 AM

Re: Who makes those fake eBay-Sanyos?

Originally posted by sofTest

It doesn't even match the description in the notice. Notice the extra dash on the cathode marking on the Suncon-description, the capital of the v (voltage). The two Sanyo-marked we see, isn't identical either. See the space between 6.3 and V.

On legit Sanyo caps space between 6.3 and V is sometimes there and sometimes not so the space doesn't indicate anything.
What to look for it the height of the numbers compared to the height of the V.
On legit Sanyo the height is the same.

As Suncon is no longer part of Sanyo I guess they can mark their caps how they want.

http://www.sunelec.co.jp/eng/history.html

http://www.sunelec.co.jp/eng/product/product_02.html

-see- no more lytics.
http://www.edc.sanyo.com/english/pro...tor/index.html

Look at bottom of last page

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**sofTest** · 07-07-2010, 12:23 AM

Re: Who makes those fake eBay-Sanyos?

Originally posted by PCBONEZ

On legit Sanyo caps space between 6.3 and V is sometimes there and sometimes not so the space doesn't indicate anything.
What to look for it the height of the numbers compared to the height of the V.
On legit Sanyo the height is the same.

As Suncon is no longer part of Sanyo I guess they can mark their caps how they want.

http://www.sunelec.co.jp/eng/history.html

http://www.sunelec.co.jp/eng/product/product_02.html

-see- no more lytics.
http://www.edc.sanyo.com/english/pro...tor/index.html

Look at bottom of last page

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I do remember reading about Sanyos exit from lytics business, reading about it here on the forum, but I didn't remember it was Suncon to continue it. Yes, Suncon can mark their caps as they like, but the marking on the one Suncon doesn't match their own change note linked to by brethin in post two.

I don't know if the caps are genuine or fake, but I've never seen a mixed lot like these, where (at least) three of the caps are different. But, for all I know, the seller might have got hold of a mixed lot of rejects from the factory, or a surplus from a manufacturer. I, for sure, do not intend to find out.

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**ratdude747** · 07-07-2010, 12:42 AM

Re: Who makes those fake eBay-Sanyos?

Originally posted by Scenic

wouldn't trust that seller.

sells Nichicons with H3058 datecode (1930? 2030? week 58?!?) and some without a series marking..
also sells the infamous "Rudoycon" caps..

epic fail!

KYA=

krappy yucky awful

**c_hegge** · 07-07-2010, 01:32 AM

Re: Who makes those fake eBay-Sanyos?

Most ebay caps are fake. The one and only reliable ebay seller I know of is this guy

**Agent24** · 07-07-2010, 02:11 AM

Re: Who makes those fake eBay-Sanyos?

Nowhere on the auction does he actually say what brand they are, though.

All you got is the photo, in my opinion from that you make your own decision...

**PCBONEZ** · 07-07-2010, 05:48 AM

Re: Who makes those fake eBay-Sanyos?

Originally posted by sofTest

but the marking on the one Suncon doesn't match their own change note linked to by brethin in post two.

Not that I trust that vendor, but, I'm not seeing this 'not matching' you speak of.

I really doubt a counterfeiter is going to suffer the cost of making both Suncon and Sanyo versions.
A mix of old and new stock legit caps makes more sense.

On the other hand a couple years ago I go two sizes of Sanyo from one vendor in one order and one size was legit while the other size wasn't.

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**PCBONEZ** · 07-07-2010, 05:52 AM

Re: Who makes those fake eBay-Sanyos?

Originally posted by c_hegge

Most ebay caps are fake. The one and only reliable ebay seller I know of is this guy

I see people wrongly calling legit caps from eBay fake about as often as I see actual fakes. [which is often]
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**PCBONEZ** · 07-07-2010, 06:13 AM

Re: Who makes those fake eBay-Sanyos?

Originally posted by c_hegge

Most ebay caps are fake. The one and only reliable ebay seller I know of is this guy

Anything I've bought from him has been good but you have to check the claims in his ads for accuracy.
I've seen 'that guy' advertising GP caps as low ESR Motherboard caps.
Found incorrect data [ESR/Ripple] in some some of his ads too.

One package I got from him was full of smashed caps because he ships internationally in bags instead of using a box. He did replace them but I had to wait for my order twice.

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**ratdude747** · 07-07-2010, 02:04 PM

Re: Who makes those fake eBay-Sanyos?

that seller (rudyocon) also had crap brand caps by the boatloads... and a bunch of shitty looking ipod chargers...

**PCBONEZ** · 07-07-2010, 03:09 PM

Re: Who makes those fake eBay-Sanyos?

I my last post I was talking about the on c_hegge brought up in post #11.

**ratdude747** · 07-07-2010, 03:42 PM

Re: Who makes those fake eBay-Sanyos?

i know

**Agent24** · 07-07-2010, 04:18 PM

Re: Who makes those fake eBay-Sanyos?

Originally posted by ratdude747

that seller (rudyocon) also had crap brand caps by the boatloads... and a bunch of shitty looking ipod chargers...

Hehe, Rudoycon - I don't understand the point of spelling it wrong... anyone who can read will know it's just a lame fake...

**PCBONEZ** · 07-07-2010, 10:12 PM

Re: Who makes those fake eBay-Sanyos?

Don't know English.
Don't know what they are writing.
[Like me trying to copy Chinese letters.]

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