Samsung Un60es6100 LED how to force power supply on?

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • sfernandes
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Oct 2013
    • 229
    • Canada

    #1

    Samsung Un60es6100 LED how to force power supply on?

    Hey guys.

    Here is a link to shopjimmy with the pictures of the power supply from this set https://www.shopjimmy.com/samsung-bn...r-supply-unit/

    I would like to know which pins on the power supply I have to jump to force it on without the main board connected, so I could troubleshoot if I have a main board issue or a power supply issue?

    I have read some things that I need a 1 ohm resistor to do it, but I don't think I have one on hand. I have done this on other sets before and never have used a resistor to do it. Please advise and thanks in advance.
  • neilc6
    Badcaps Legend
    • Nov 2015
    • 1550
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: Samsung Un60es6100 LED how to force power supply on?

    Samsung TV power supplies typically have pull up resistors on the PS-ON and BL-ON control signals so you just need to disconnect the cable going to the main board.

    Comment

    • sfernandes
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Oct 2013
      • 229
      • Canada

      #3
      Re: Samsung Un60es6100 LED how to force power supply on?

      Originally posted by neilc6
      Samsung TV power supplies typically have pull up resistors on the PS-ON and BL-ON control signals so you just need to disconnect the cable going to the main board.
      This one doesn't seem to as I have done that and it won't come on.

      Comment

      • nomoresonys
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jan 2013
        • 12081
        • U.S.

        #4
        Re: Samsung Un60es6100 LED how to force power supply on?

        Start with testing the voltages at the connector on the powerboard, with EVERYTHING hooked up, you measure them with your mutimeter, set meter to 20 vdc then report them, put neg probe on chassis metal ground, pos probe on pin of connector, measure in standby take note, leave probes where they are then power on tv and again take note of voltages, report them here, example pin 1-ps-on-0 volts standby-power on-3.3 volts. This is how we see what voltages you do or don't have.

        Comment

        • nomoresonys
          Badcaps Legend
          • Jan 2013
          • 12081
          • U.S.

          #5
          Re: Samsung Un60es6100 LED how to force power supply on?

          Since you got no backlights in the test, the problem is probably on powerboard or backlights.

          Comment

          • sfernandes
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Oct 2013
            • 229
            • Canada

            #6
            Re: Samsung Un60es6100 LED how to force power supply on?

            Originally posted by nomoresonys
            Start with testing the voltages at the connector on the powerboard, with EVERYTHING hooked up, you measure them with your mutimeter, set meter to 20 vdc then report them, put neg probe on chassis metal ground, pos probe on pin of connector, measure in standby take note, leave probes where they are then power on tv and again take note of voltages, report them here, example pin 1-ps-on-0 volts standby-power on-3.3 volts. This is how we see what voltages you do or don't have.
            I really do appreciate everyone's help here. I really do, but could someone please just answer my original question?

            Comment

            • nomoresonys
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jan 2013
              • 12081
              • U.S.

              #7
              Re: Samsung Un60es6100 LED how to force power supply on?

              Nah, I just don't feel like it.

              Comment

              • handsworth
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2015
                • 174
                • United States

                #8
                Re: Samsung Un60es6100 LED how to force power supply on?

                Probably need to do the tests as explained prior. If you not getting the correct voltages, your ps may be bad. If so, no way to jump it.

                Comment

                • R_J
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 9515
                  • Canada

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung Un60es6100 LED how to force power supply on?

                  Originally posted by sfernandes
                  I really do appreciate everyone's help here. I really do, but could someone please just answer my original question?
                  Your answer was given in post#2
                  The power supply has pullup resistors on the PS-ON transistor, so there is no need to have external resistors, just unplug the main board. If the power supply is not turning ON then it has a problem.
                  Do you have A5V (standby voltage)? If not, check FM802S if open, ICS801S is likely bad.
                  Last edited by R_J; 02-05-2021, 07:18 PM.

                  Comment

                  • dick_barton
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 6642
                    • Wales

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung Un60es6100 LED how to force power supply on?

                    I have read some things that I need a 1 ohm resistor to do it, but I don't think I have one on hand. I have done this on other sets before and never have used a resistor to do it. Please advise and thanks in advance.
                    When jumper resistors are used then use 1K ohm (1000 ohms) or something close to that value. Never use 1 ohm.
                    Last edited by dick_barton; 02-07-2021, 02:33 PM.
                    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

                    Comment

                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung Un60es6100 LED how to force power supply on?

                      Originally posted by sfernandes
                      I really do appreciate everyone's help here. I really do, but could someone please just answer my original question?
                      You can easily verify if the power supply board has pull-up resistors for self-test function or not by measuring the DCV on the control pins of the power supply board without main board connected.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                      Comment

                      • Nick's Tvs
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 621
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung Un60es6100 LED how to force power supply on?

                        Originally posted by sfernandes
                        This one doesn't seem to as I have done that and it won't come on.
                        Congratulations, you have just diagnosed your power supply board and or backlight as the culprit.

                        What you mentioned you have read regarding jumping pin# to Pin# does not apply for any Samsung LED TV manufactured between 2011 to today. You must have read about a Samsung plasma power supply troubleshooting which is designed differently and can not be used to troubleshoot LED models or other boards from different manufacturers.

                        Now that you know that your power supply board is the issue and or your LED strips the issue, you need to troubleshoot from there.

                        If you have an LED tester, use it and check your LED strips. If not then disconnect your LED strips from the power supply, and plug it back in. Now check your output voltages to the mainboard such as the A5v, B5v, and 12v lines.
                        If everything is there, then your LED's are the issue. If not everything is there, then your power supply is the issue.

                        Comment

                        • nomoresonys
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 12081
                          • U.S.

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung Un60es6100 LED how to force power supply on?

                          Well you just had 6 pros and 1 amateur ALL tell you the same thing, if you didn't want advice then why did you post.

                          Comment

                          Related Topics

                          Collapse

                          • Tynan Dill
                            Vizio e601i-A3 - Has Sound and Display, But No Backlight - Bad Power Supply Board or Bad LED Bulbs ?
                            by Tynan Dill
                            I was given this TV from my great uncle. He said it just wouldn't turn on one day out of nowhere, replaced the TV, and gave it to me to possibly fix and use for myself.

                            Upon bringing it home and plugging it up, it showed a standby light.

                            I powered it on and without a flashlight, the display showed the "V" but the lighting is very dim, but visible.

                            The screen seems to blackout and stay black, but with a flashlight I can see the display.

                            With my Playstation 4 connected via HDMI, and running a game I can hear sound.

                            Assuming...
                            11-22-2024, 01:46 PM
                          • sam_sam_sam
                            Desoldering gun station modified to use a 18 volt @ 20 amp switching power supply
                            by sam_sam_sam
                            I have wanting to do this project for quite sometime now and I finally found a switching power supply that will work on this desoldering gun station ZD-915 that the original switching power supply took a shit and just was not worth trying to fix it because this switching power is not quite big enough to handle the heater element and the vacuum pump

                            One note when I tested the switching power supply and the voltage control board I noticed that this desoldering gun heat up much faster than the original switching power supply which I was really surprised by to the point that I might buy...
                            03-31-2024, 02:12 PM
                          • sam_sam_sam
                            Modification to a ZD-987 desoldering/soldering station using a external switching power supply
                            by sam_sam_sam
                            I have been working on this concept for quite some time now with limited success but recently I found a switching power supply that is setup for the voltage that this soldering station needs to operate at however it also needs part of the secondary circuit from the original switching power because you need several voltage rails

                            I once tried to get a ZD-915 desoldering station to work on a 18 volt battery power supply but unfortunately things did not go well but I did find a work around but I might try this idea again but going at a little differently more about this another time...
                            07-01-2024, 06:34 AM
                          • cheeky2
                            Samsung BN44-00262A H37F1-9SS power supply help finding blown value components!
                            by cheeky2
                            This Samsung combined power supply and inverter was replaced a while ago from a Samsung 37inch LE37B530P7W TV. However I would like to repair this one.
                            I have replaced the Mosfets Q1820 and Q1821 ( FDPF7N50U) which were both blown and the fuse FM802S. The schematic for this power supply that is attached doesn't relate to this power supply as the driving transistors and diodes are D1830, D1831, D1832, D1833, Q1811 & Q1810 are nowhere on the schematic!
                            Does anyone know what the components for D1830, D1831, D1832, D1833, Q1811 & Q1810 should be? I ask as I did change the Mosfets...
                            06-15-2025, 05:12 AM
                          • JimBanville
                            Definitive technology SC 2000 subwoofer amp's power supply clicking and popping
                            by JimBanville
                            The sub developed a constant popping every couple seconds from woofer and power LED flickering with nothing but wall AC connected. Connecting an audio cable didn't change anything. It doesn't play but a second or two of audio in between the pops.
                            Opened it up and discovered the power supply is making a faint clicking or ticking sound.
                            I measured the amp's output to the woofer and it pulses up to 50mv DC to be driver. The pulses coincide with the power supply ticking/clicking.
                            I measured the power supply output going to the amp board and it too has this pulsing. Voltage cycles...
                            09-13-2023, 07:21 AM
                          • Loading...
                          • No more items.
                          Working...