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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #101
    Re: Sound and picture but no backlight

    Main Transformer T1 is fine and it is working otherwise you will not have the 5VSB (fed from always on 5V), Switched 5V (fed from always on 5V) and Switched 12V (fed from always on 12vV), and the 60V (fed from always on 60V) feeding the boost converter.
    Last edited by budm; 12-27-2020, 07:35 PM.
    Never stop learning
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    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

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    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
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    • JCdes
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 91
      • USA

      #102
      Re: Sound and picture but no backlight

      Pulled d200 and it's ok.

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #103
        Re: Sound and picture but no backlight

        Originally posted by JCdes
        Pulled d200 and it's ok.
        No resistance reading on both directions, correct?
        And if you check the resistance of the two solder pads of D200 without D200 in place, what resistance do you get in both directions?
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • JCdes
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 91
          • USA

          #104
          Re: Sound and picture but no backlight

          Originally posted by Diah
          you keep swimming at wrong direction... as you dont have the equipment to measure led in circuit currents.... put your DM 200.V DC red probe on any LED+ and test black probe on all LED- one by one when you turn on the set post your results each led -V No. --- this is -V currents boost circuit ( always i corrected this thought over this forum .. LED circuit / UNIT depending on current not Volts. ) so all yours parts replacement was just spending parts and time.
          Will do that tomorrow... I don't think replacing parts and spending 10 bucks in them is a waste as I consider it a learning experience plus new parts last longer after all. I'll let you know how the test came out.

          I would be lying if I told you that I think I did that and I only see a change in the multimeter reading if the corresponding led+ And led- pair for a specific strip are touched eg: First+ with first - which is the bottom strip pair, second + with second - which is the second to last and so on. So I will do the test cause I don't remember if I've done that already.

          Thanks for trying to help.

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          • JCdes
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 91
            • USA

            #105
            Re: Sound and picture but no backlight

            Originally posted by budm
            No resistance reading on both directions, correct?
            And if you check the resistance of the two solder pads of D200 without D200 in place, what resistance do you get in both directions?
            With red probe on middle pin of d200 I get resistance but with the probes on both ends (1 and 3) nothing. I'll do the test on the solder pads tomorrow after work.
            Last edited by JCdes; 12-28-2020, 05:46 PM.

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            • Diah
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2013
              • 6355
              • Germany

              #106
              Re: Sound and picture but no backlight

              Originally posted by JCdes
              Will do that tomorrow... I don't think replacing parts and spending 10 bucks in them is a waste
              I would be lying if I told you that I think I did that and I only see a change in the multimeter reading

              Thanks for trying to help.
              i am sure you will find the issue soon.
              my points not about spending $ .. the problem we are facing knowing days.. spare parts become very bad manufactured. for me ONE Original parts of set tested working will never replace it even just for test only...
              good luck wish you.

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #107
                Re: Sound and picture but no backlight

                Originally posted by JCdes
                With red probe on middle pin of d200 I get resistance but with the probes on both ends (1 and 3) nothing. I'll do the test on the solder pads tomorrow after work.
                D200 is the Dual diode with Common Cathode (center pin), the two outer legs are anode and they are tied together to put the two diodes in parallel that is why you can see the trace connecting the two outer pins together.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • JCdes
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 91
                  • USA

                  #108
                  Re: Sound and picture but no backlight

                  Ok, I will not be able to do tests today. Family matters that I must attend... So I'll ask you guys so that if I get home early I'll know what I'm looking for.

                  Diah: When I test the led+ With all the led-'s... What should I see? Should it give me a reading with all the -'s or only with the - that belongs to thats specific strip?

                  Budm: Should I see a specific resistance or none at all?

                  Once again thanks for the time you're spending with my problem and will to learn something new.
                  Last edited by JCdes; 12-29-2020, 06:02 PM. Reason: Typo

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #109
                    Re: Sound and picture but no backlight

                    I expect the resistance reading to be in K Ohms range on the solder pads of D200..
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • Diah
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 6355
                      • Germany

                      #110
                      Re: Sound and picture but no backlight

                      Originally posted by JCdes
                      Diah: When I test the led+ With all the led-'s... What should I see? Should it give me a reading with all the -'s or only with the - that belongs to thats specific strip?
                      yours POST #21

                      each strips contain same amount & Type of LED units, testing direct on + & - LED socket will show us if there are differences at pulling currents between the strips. in other words ( we are testing the build in ziner diode at LED unit ) which by time the value changed (decrease). this change LED tester would pass it as success test. but the power boards LED circuit will not pass it ( failed ) because its designed on certain currents depending on Panel size and the amount / type of LED units.

                      reading the high/ low value after powering up will tell us if our suspect correct or not.

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                      • JCdes
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 91
                        • USA

                        #111
                        Re: Sound and picture but no backlight

                        Sorry for the long delay guys... I suffered a total rupture of my achilles tendon and have been recovering slowly... As soon as I can stand I'll do the tests...

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                        • JCdes
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 91
                          • USA

                          #112
                          Re: Sound and picture but no backlight

                          My wife gave me this gift... Do you guys think it could work?
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                          • JCdes
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 91
                            • USA

                            #113
                            Re: Sound and picture but no backlight

                            Recovery from this surgery is torture...

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                            • JCdes
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 91
                              • USA

                              #114
                              Re: Sound and picture but no backlight

                              I can almost walk ok... I'll try to get back on this tv tomorrow. Gonna check the power levels you requested. Btw how about that board my wife gave me hoping it could work? Is it crap?

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