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  • Nonya333
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    • Aug 2018
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    #1

    Vizio D55-f2 backlight/power supply 20v/24v rail output high 26v

    no backlight on set.

    the 20v rail fuse on the mainboard was blown. i replaced and backlight and tv worked for about a day before flickering and out again

    input on mainboard for led should be 20v to fuse but is reading 26v at input and <3v output.

    power supply output should be 20v/24v from connector and output is reading >25.6-26v

    any suggestions?

    i also tested backlights with tester and they were all same steady voltage and on

    output switch transisters seem to be reading fine in circuit.

    will check capacitors esr next
  • Nonya333
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    • Aug 2018
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    #2
    Re: Vizio D55-f2 backlight/power supply 20v/24v rail output high 26v

    is it normal for there to be aboit 26V on the 20v/24v power line and if not what would cause it to be so high?

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    • dokma
      Member
      • Aug 2017
      • 39
      • Croatia

      #3
      Re: Vizio D55-f2 backlight/power supply 20v/24v rail output high 26v

      You can check my thread where I've managed to fix 19V spikes on a 5.3V rail. My issue was a faulty switching voltage regulator on the power supply. Perhaps your issue is something similar.

      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?p=991809

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      • Nonya333
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        • Aug 2018
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        #4
        Re: Vizio D55-f2 backlight/power supply 20v/24v rail output high 26v

        i will check it out. thank you for reply.

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        • Nonya333
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          • Aug 2018
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          #5
          Re: Vizio D55-f2 backlight/power supply 20v/24v rail output high 26v

          on the ps board on output there is a power mosfet to the 20/24v power rail/connector to main.

          coming in from transformer there are 3 double schotky rectifiers.

          there is a heat sink with bridge rectifier and what i am guessing is voltage regulator since i cannot see untill i desolder heat sink.

          was your voltage regulator on hot side?

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          • Nonya333
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            • Aug 2018
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            #6
            Re: Vizio D55-f2 backlight/power supply 20v/24v rail output high 26v

            there are 2 outputs to the led lights from the mainboard.

            the one with less pins still shows half as positive and half as negative but the output is reversed

            positive is showing up on negative and negative on positive

            i poked around everywhere i am thinking it is the ic chip that controls mosfets

            any help would be greatly appreciated

            thanks

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            • R_J
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jun 2012
              • 9535
              • Canada

              #7
              Re: Vizio D55-f2 backlight/power supply 20v/24v rail output high 26v

              How about posting some high quality, in focus pictures so we know what we are dealing with? It seems the led's are driven from the main board so I doubt the power supply is at fault, more likely you have an open led in the panel. If the power supply provides 24v and it reads 26v it is likely due to the fact the backlights are not working. If they were working the higher current draw would lower the voltage to 24v
              Last edited by R_J; 10-04-2020, 06:38 PM.

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              • Nonya333
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                • Aug 2018
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                #8
                Re: Vizio D55-f2 backlight/power supply 20v/24v rail output high 26v

                please excuse the hackjob of the 15ohm resistor and wire for a fuse i could not find another 5R1 resistor.

                when i plug in the connector cn6101 upside down with positive on neg side etc there is backlight and display is working however half does look brighter.

                cn6101 is where polarity is reversed
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                Last edited by Nonya333; 10-05-2020, 11:45 AM.

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                • Nonya333
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                  • Aug 2018
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                  #9
                  Re: Vizio D55-f2 backlight/power supply 20v/24v rail output high 26v

                  i also removed mosfet pq4804 because i am getting inconsistent reading than other mosfets and pq4807 reading slightliy lower resistance as well

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                  • Nonya333
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                    • Aug 2018
                    • 19
                    • United States

                    #10
                    Re: Vizio D55-f2 backlight/power supply 20v/24v rail output high 26v

                    i tested leds with tester to led directly without pcbs and on cn6102 the voltage was higher but each line from connector to strip produced steady voltage on all strips

                    i did not remove panel to access strips because i am not that good at removing and reassembling lcd without damage

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Vizio D55-f2 backlight/power supply 20v/24v rail output high 26v

                      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...9&d=1601919019
                      Is that Brown Green Silver Gold resistor you installed? That is 0.15 Ohms.
                      That is current sensing resistor connected to the Source pin of the MOSFET's PQ4501, 4502 so you cannot just put in any value resistor it's place.
                      Was the 5R1 resistor bad? What are the color band of the resistor?

                      Where is the wire for the fuse?
                      Last edited by budm; 10-05-2020, 02:13 PM.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • Nonya333
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                        • Aug 2018
                        • 19
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                        #12
                        Re: Vizio D55-f2 backlight/power supply 20v/24v rail output high 26v

                        top circled smd is the resitor i replaced. there is another 5r1 smd slightly lower.

                        the circle on right is where i put a jumper wire for the smd fuse. difficult to see it is a tiny piece of wire
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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Vizio D55-f2 backlight/power supply 20v/24v rail output high 26v

                          Originally posted by Nonya333
                          top circled smd is the resitor i replaced. there is another 5r1 smd slightly lower.

                          the circle on right is where i put a jumper wire for the smd fuse. difficult to see it is a tiny piece of wire
                          The 5R1 resistor close by is part of the RC snubber network for the Diode PD45??.

                          I cannot see how you can have a SMD resistor and SMD fuse on just two solder pads, you are not making any senses to me.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • Nonya333
                            Member
                            • Aug 2018
                            • 19
                            • United States

                            #14
                            Re: Vizio D55-f2 backlight/power supply 20v/24v rail output high 26v

                            there is no smd fuse i just soldered a jumper wire

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                            • Nonya333
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                              • Aug 2018
                              • 19
                              • United States

                              #15
                              Re: Vizio D55-f2 backlight/power supply 20v/24v rail output high 26v

                              and replaced a 5r1 that was bad with the bigger 5ohm smd

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                              • Nonya333
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                                • Aug 2018
                                • 19
                                • United States

                                #16
                                Re: Vizio D55-f2 backlight/power supply 20v/24v rail output high 26v

                                what could cause the polarity to be reversed at cn6101?

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                                • Nonya333
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                                  • Aug 2018
                                  • 19
                                  • United States

                                  #17
                                  Re: Vizio D55-f2 backlight/power supply 20v/24v rail output high 26v

                                  bad pu4501? i cannot find data sheet for this ic

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Vizio D55-f2 backlight/power supply 20v/24v rail output high 26v

                                    1) OK, i see the Fuse F4501 now.

                                    2) When did the fuse blow?

                                    3) Was the 5R1 resistor blown open circuit?

                                    4) Need to see the pictures of the whole backside the TV showing how all the boards and the backlight LED's are connected together.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • Nonya333
                                      Member
                                      • Aug 2018
                                      • 19
                                      • United States

                                      #19
                                      Re: Vizio D55-f2 backlight/power supply 20v/24v rail output high 26v

                                      the fuse was blown prior to me touching anything. it was a white smd with the letter "Y". i also could not find info on that.

                                      i found a bigger package smd fuse rated at 2a and replaced that. the set worked for approximately 5-10 hours and then fuse blew again

                                      the 5r1 resistor was showing up as a capacitor on my cheap esr meter and showing higher resistance i believe. i still have it i will have to double check
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                                      • nomoresonys
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Jan 2013
                                        • 12115
                                        • U.S.

                                        #20
                                        Re: Vizio D55-f2 backlight/power supply 20v/24v rail output high 26v

                                        You have to use the same type fuse that came out, it matters if it's a fast blow or a slow blow also.

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