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  • RooTV
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2020
    • 128
    • Australia

    #1

    JVC LT-65N550A LED Issue

    Hi everyone

    I was just given this JVC LT-65N550A and the guy told me that he checked it out and it has the usual LED issue.

    Black screen but a picture shows when using a torch.

    I haven't had a TV this thin before and when I pulled the "lump" off the back to show all the mainboard cards etc, there was no sticker saying what type of panel it is using.

    Do I need to pull the whole back off the TV? it seems to me that there may not be anything underneath it to have a sticker on?

    I seem to be the lucky one that gets a lot of TV's with "hard to find" parts.

    I'm not sure where to start looking for replacement LED strips unless I pull the TV totally apart. I'm trying to avoid doing that twice.

    Any hints on these JVC's that may show me the panel used or the replacement LED strips to get?

    Thanks for any help.
  • diif
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2014
    • 6978
    • England

    #2
    Re: JVC LT-65N550A LED Issue

    Photos always help. It will be a chassis common across a few brand names. The only bit that is JVC is the screen printing on the front of the TV.

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #3
      Re: JVC LT-65N550A LED Issue

      Need to see pictures so we can see what we are dealing with.
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • RooTV
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2020
        • 128
        • Australia

        #4
        Re: JVC LT-65N550A LED Issue

        So JVC's are so generic they are used in many different brands?

        I emailed JVC for spare part info and was just told that the led strips are not available as a spare part. So helpful.

        Im working on the pics. I assume you are referring to pictures of the back cover off or the whole back of the tv?

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #5
          Re: JVC LT-65N550A LED Issue

          The whole back of the TV so we can see how all the boards are connected together.

          I do not know how up to date this info is:
          https://www.consumerreports.org/tvs/...hat-they-seem/
          Last edited by budm; 08-11-2020, 06:53 PM.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • RooTV
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2020
            • 128
            • Australia

            #6
            Re: JVC LT-65N550A LED Issue

            here are some photos...
            Attached Files

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            • neilc6
              Badcaps Legend
              • Nov 2015
              • 1550
              • Canada

              #7
              Re: JVC LT-65N550A LED Issue

              You are not likely to find replacement strips for those Chinese models. They are branded RCA/Westinghouse/Proscan/Haier in North America. I usually repair the strips, move it to the edge (in case it is noticeable), and turn down the backlight level in the service menu (source-2-5-8-0 or menu-1-1-4-7) under Panel Settings. Only typically find 1-3 burnt out with the protection shutdown. Most of these models use Samsung compatible 3V LED modules with the small pad positive. The default picture modes run the backlights at 100% so very common to see backlight failures after 2 years.

              From the Tcon label, tcon part number is 55.65T07.C07 which is an AUO panel. Looks like it is used on Vizio E650i-A2. From an ebay listing, strips could be part 48.64S03.L01 with one listing there for used strips. Most manufacturers (and authorized service centers) consider the backlight part of the panel assembly and not replaceable.

              Also when removing the panel, there is double-sided foam tape holding down the panel boards. There may also be double sided tape on the panel itself as well.
              Last edited by neilc6; 08-11-2020, 08:16 PM.

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              • RooTV
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2020
                • 128
                • Australia

                #8
                Re: JVC LT-65N550A LED Issue

                Wow i didn't think it would be that confusing.
                Thanks for the heads up

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                • mmartell
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 3189
                  • Canada

                  #9
                  Re: JVC LT-65N550A LED Issue

                  Did you verify the led driver circuit is ok ?

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                  • RooTV
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2020
                    • 128
                    • Australia

                    #10
                    Re: JVC LT-65N550A LED Issue

                    No. I just assumed the led's were the issue as that is what the guy told me.
                    Probably not wise eh?
                    What's the best procedure for checking led driver circuit?

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: JVC LT-65N550A LED Issue

                      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...5&d=1597195824
                      Ah, so I thought you have already done the Voltage testing to come up with Bad LED conclusion after Voltage testings were done.
                      You need to check the COLD SIDE Voltages of each pin of the connector using chassis GND ref. The connectors have pin names so you MUST put down the pin names follow by the Voltage readings fir each pin when TV is OFF and when TV is turned on.
                      Did you buy the LED tester yet?
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • neilc6
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 1550
                        • Canada

                        #12
                        Re: JVC LT-65N550A LED Issue

                        Every RCA/Proscan/Westinghouse TV I've looked at that turned on with no backlight had bad backlights. The protection shutdown is doing its job and protecting the power supply.
                        Haier models tend to have eeprom issues as well but the symptom is the the tv had a standby light but didn't turn on.

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                        • RooTV
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2020
                          • 128
                          • Australia

                          #13
                          Re: JVC LT-65N550A LED Issue

                          Yes i have the led tester

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: JVC LT-65N550A LED Issue

                            Originally posted by RooTV
                            Yes i have the led tester
                            Well, did you use it to test and find out what it shows for each LED strings?
                            I did not see that was done in the first post.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                            Comment

                            • neilc6
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 1550
                              • Canada

                              #15
                              Re: JVC LT-65N550A LED Issue

                              From your picture, you have two banks of LED strips (small 2 pin connector with black and white wires). You can power each bank and compare voltages. I would expect one to have a shorted LED and report about 3V less than the other if the LEDs are evenly distributed. You can also power up one bank of the LED with the tester instead of the power supply and turn on the TV to check the screen and make sure the video is working. Works better than the flashlight test.
                              Last edited by neilc6; 08-12-2020, 07:01 PM.

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: JVC LT-65N550A LED Issue

                                Originally posted by neilc6
                                From your picture, you have two banks of LED strips (small 2 pin connector with black and white wires). You can power each bank and compare voltages. I would expect one to have a shorted LED and report about 3V less than the other if the LEDs are evenly distributed. You can also power up one bank of the LED with the tester and turn on the TV to check the screen and make sure the video is working.
                                I wonder why he did not perform the simple test with LED tester.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                Comment

                                • RooTV
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Apr 2020
                                  • 128
                                  • Australia

                                  #17
                                  Re: JVC LT-65N550A LED Issue

                                  I havent performed test because I have not had a chance to do anything with it yet, apart from pull off the back cover.

                                  I finally have time to do some testing today.

                                  This, and I am still really new to all this and wasn't sure what to test or how to test it, so I need to give myself a lot more time than an experienced person to do it

                                  Im sorry I have come here asking questions half baked, but my inexperience is showing.

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                                  • RooTV
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Apr 2020
                                    • 128
                                    • Australia

                                    #18
                                    Re: JVC LT-65N550A LED Issue

                                    Ok, game over.

                                    As neilC said, I found double sided tape holding the screen down, and that led to the screen cracking, regardless of how careful I was.

                                    Parting it out now.

                                    Thanks for all your help.

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                                    • neilc6
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Nov 2015
                                      • 1550
                                      • Canada

                                      #19
                                      Re: JVC LT-65N550A LED Issue

                                      You can still check the LEDs with the tester so you have an understanding of how to use the tester. Measure the voltages from the connectors but you can observe the LEDs lighting up with the panel removed. Each strip can also be checked with the panel removed. With a short, it's not necessary but with an open LED, you need to isolate it.

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                                      • RooTV
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Apr 2020
                                        • 128
                                        • Australia

                                        #20
                                        Re: JVC LT-65N550A LED Issue

                                        yep. doing that now

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