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  • dick_barton
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    #41
    Re: Tv Grundig Vision 2 22-2920 turn off after 2 secs

    From 3 lamps i measure ~2v, and from 1 lamp i measure ~0.2v.
    Where do you measure the above. At what testpoint do you measure 0.2V?
    The readings you have given are as in the jpeg shown in blue.
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    Last edited by dick_barton; 04-30-2020, 04:02 AM.
    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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    • nomoresonys
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      #42
      Re: Tv Grundig Vision 2 22-2920 turn off after 2 secs

      Originally posted by stomanata
      ???? i can`t understand this...
      It means I would change those four blue caps with new ones.

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      • stomanata
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        • Apr 2016
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        #43
        Re: Tv Grundig Vision 2 22-2920 turn off after 2 secs

        Originally posted by dick_barton
        Where do you measure the above. At what testpoint do you measure 0.2V?
        The readings you have given are as in the jpeg shown in blue.
        Sorry, my mistake.
        Over 4 lamps i measure:
        TP93=1.96, but after some secs it drop to ~1.85-1.9
        Tp95= 1.71-1.75
        TP21=1.84
        TP22=1.44
        This TP22 is too low.

        Originally posted by nomoresonys
        It means I would change those four blue caps with new ones.
        Oh, that sound better. I`ll check is there option to find new caps near me.

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        • nomoresonys
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          #44
          Re: Tv Grundig Vision 2 22-2920 turn off after 2 secs

          I think you can substitute electrolytic caps for the blue ones, same uf, I'd go up a bit in voltage maybe, don't know if that's the problem but worth a shot.
          Last edited by nomoresonys; 04-30-2020, 06:56 AM.

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          • dick_barton
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            #45
            Re: Tv Grundig Vision 2 22-2920 turn off after 2 secs

            The 1.44V for TP22 is certainly out of range compared to the other 3 test points.
            Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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            • stomanata
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              #46
              Re: Tv Grundig Vision 2 22-2920 turn off after 2 secs

              Originally posted by dick_barton
              The 1.44V for TP22 is certainly out of range compared to the other 3 test points.
              Yes, but why? What cause this low voltage?!?!?

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              • dick_barton
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                #47
                Re: Tv Grundig Vision 2 22-2920 turn off after 2 secs

                Maybe the lamp is starting to fail. I really don't know.
                Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                • stomanata
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                  • Apr 2016
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                  #48
                  Re: Tv Grundig Vision 2 22-2920 turn off after 2 secs

                  I buy led conversion kit.
                  What is the best to do?
                  1. To remove both mosfets (T2006 and T2009) that
                  drive transformer.
                  2. To use 560ohm resistor to ignore OLP
                  3. To solder wire to #8 of FAN7314 for ADJ
                  or other way?

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                  • nomoresonys
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                    #49
                    Re: Tv Grundig Vision 2 22-2920 turn off after 2 secs

                    Did you locate a conversion kit??

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                    • stomanata
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                      #50
                      Re: Tv Grundig Vision 2 22-2920 turn off after 2 secs

                      What do you mean?
                      I buy it. I have it already.
                      Or you ask me for something else?

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                      • nomoresonys
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                        #51
                        Re: Tv Grundig Vision 2 22-2920 turn off after 2 secs

                        Yes, do you have it? I didn't see any in my brief look around.

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                        • stomanata
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                          #52
                          Re: Tv Grundig Vision 2 22-2920 turn off after 2 secs

                          Yes, i got it.
                          It cost me ~$15, while in China it is less than $5.

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                          • nomoresonys
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                            #53
                            Re: Tv Grundig Vision 2 22-2920 turn off after 2 secs

                            Post some pictures of it, lets see what we're dealing with.

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                            • stomanata
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                              #54
                              Re: Tv Grundig Vision 2 22-2920 turn off after 2 secs

                              Originally posted by nomoresonys
                              Post some pictures of it, lets see what we're dealing with.
                              Here is 1 picture of both sides
                              Attached Files

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                              • nomoresonys
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                                #55
                                Re: Tv Grundig Vision 2 22-2920 turn off after 2 secs

                                Well I'm no expert but I think you're going to need some led strips to go with that should have gotten instructions with it, there's some lcd-led conversion videos on youtube.

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                                • stomanata
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                                  #56
                                  Re: Tv Grundig Vision 2 22-2920 turn off after 2 secs

                                  Yes, there is led strip. It is inside the panel.
                                  I will power up this driver with 12v and may be to connect it to ADJ.
                                  Then i`ll try to remove both mosfets and to use 560ohm to shunt OLP

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                                  • nomoresonys
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                                    #57
                                    Re: Tv Grundig Vision 2 22-2920 turn off after 2 secs

                                    So this tv is already a led tv then correct? I was thinking you were trying to convert the backlighting from ccfl to led.

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                                    • dick_barton
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                                      #58
                                      Re: Tv Grundig Vision 2 22-2920 turn off after 2 secs

                                      So this tv is already a led tv then correct? I was thinking you were trying to convert the backlighting from ccfl to led.
                                      It is currently a CCFL set and I'm puzzled as to how he intends to go about the conversion.
                                      Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                                      • nomoresonys
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                                        #59
                                        Re: Tv Grundig Vision 2 22-2920 turn off after 2 secs

                                        I'm lost on this one, even more than usual.
                                        Last edited by nomoresonys; 05-22-2020, 10:38 AM.

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                                        • stomanata
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                                          #60
                                          Re: Tv Grundig Vision 2 22-2920 turn off after 2 secs

                                          Yes, it is CCFL and now i`ll try to convert it to LED backlight.
                                          I remove ll 4 CCFL, 2 of them has black zone at one side.
                                          Put LED strip and now i must try to solder wires to PSU.

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