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  • philtvman
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2016
    • 94
    • America

    #21
    Re: Samsung Ln55b650t1f Part Identification

    Originally posted by ngth82
    +1 to BudM and the big scary cap comment. It's no joke. Don't die.

    Just getting to my e-mail... standby goes down to 1.3V? STBY isn't loaded down when the TV is off (e.g it's within nominal), and shouldn't be when the TV is on.

    Edit: also, you are missing a few pin numbers... You have pins 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17, 19, 21, 23, 25, 27, 29, 30... where are the rest?
    Correct. When Powered on, standby voltage jumps from 5.18 -> 3.31 -> 0.155 -> 1.3 -> 1.6 -> OL -> 5.18 (all in about 2 seconds)

    All the pins I left out are not wired, just open holes in the connector.

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    • ngth82
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Jul 2015
      • 541
      • USA

      #22
      Re: Samsung Ln55b650t1f Part Identification

      Interesting... can you check the four rectifying diodes on that power board? Wait until the big caps discharge first. If you can, either remove the diode from the circuit, or just lift one leg off first.
      -Thomas
      I'm a hardware engineer focused on networking equipment for my day job. I void warranties and fix consumer electronics for fun.

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #23
        Re: Samsung Ln55b650t1f Part Identification

        Originally posted by philtvman
        Voltage between filter caps
        Power Off with Main Disconnected from PS: 387
        Power Off All Connected: 168
        Power On: Spikes to 387 and drops back to 168

        Tested the SB and yes, same result. Steady at 5.18 with Power Off.
        When Powered on, voltage jumps from 5.18 -> 3.31 -> 0.155 -> 1.3 -> 1.6 -> OL -> 5.18 (all in about 2 seconds)...when the button is pressed and these voltages are bouncing around, the standby light turns off.
        Ah, so the standby light does not stay on solid then, that this important if, unless I read your post #1 wrong and thinking that the standby light stay on when turn the TV on and then goes off when TV is turned off.
        So right now we do not have steady Standby power supply output.
        Last edited by budm; 04-12-2020, 08:50 PM.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #24
          Re: Samsung Ln55b650t1f Part Identification

          Originally posted by philtvman
          Voltage between filter caps
          Power Off with Main Disconnected from PS: 387
          Power Off All Connected: 168
          Power On: Spikes to 387 and drops back to 168

          Tested the SB and yes, same result. Steady at 5.18 with Power Off.
          When Powered on, voltage jumps from 5.18 -> 3.31 -> 0.155 -> 1.3 -> 1.6 -> OL -> 5.18 (all in about 2 seconds)...when the button is pressed and these voltages are bouncing around, the standby light turns off.
          So in self test mode (power supply board not connected to the main board) the PS-ON pin has the pull-up resistor to simulate PS-ON control signal and the PFC Boosted Voltage is working fine,
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #25
            Re: Samsung Ln55b650t1f Part Identification

            So what Voltage do you have on INV-ON and I-PWM pins when running the power supply board without connection to the main board but everything else are still connected? Do see the backlights come on?
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • philtvman
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2016
              • 94
              • America

              #26
              Re: Samsung Ln55b650t1f Part Identification

              Originally posted by ngth82
              Interesting... can you check the four rectifying diodes on that power board? Wait until the big caps discharge first. If you can, either remove the diode from the circuit, or just lift one leg off first.
              Are these the four you are referencing? Thank you for your patience!
              Attached Files

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              • philtvman
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2016
                • 94
                • America

                #27
                Re: Samsung Ln55b650t1f Part Identification

                Originally posted by budm
                So what Voltage do you have on INV-ON and I-PWM pins when running the power supply board without connection to the main board but everything else are still connected? Do see the backlights come on?
                Yes, the backlights all come on with the main board disconnected.

                INV-ON: 7.3
                I-PWM: No wire in this connection
                E-PWM: 4.9

                Correct, the standby light will be on when the TV is OFF and turn off when the power button is pressed. It turns back on after about 2 seconds.
                Last edited by philtvman; 04-12-2020, 09:09 PM.

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                • nomoresonys
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 12086
                  • U.S.

                  #28
                  Re: Samsung Ln55b650t1f Part Identification

                  Maybe unhook the tcon from mainboard, keep mainboard connected to powerboard, see if you get proper steady voltages there at your powerboard connector.

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                  • nomoresonys
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 12086
                    • U.S.

                    #29
                    Re: Samsung Ln55b650t1f Part Identification

                    Check cable from powerboard to mainboard, see if there are any dark or burnt looking terminals, can also check for continuity from end to end, Sometimes I use stripped bread ties so as not to spread out or distort the terminal ends.

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                    • philtvman
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2016
                      • 94
                      • America

                      #30
                      Re: Samsung Ln55b650t1f Part Identification

                      No change in voltages when the T-Con was removed from the Main.

                      Also thoroughly looked over the Main/Power cable, everything looks good there.

                      Thanks for your help!

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                      • philtvman
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2016
                        • 94
                        • America

                        #31
                        Re: Samsung Ln55b650t1f Part Identification

                        Originally posted by nomoresonys
                        Check cable from powerboard to mainboard, see if there are any dark or burnt looking terminals, can also check for continuity from end to end, Sometimes I use stripped bread ties so as not to spread out or distort the terminal ends.
                        Reply above, meant to quote it you
                        Last edited by philtvman; 04-13-2020, 02:52 PM.

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