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  • thee8ball
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    • Jul 2019
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    #1

    vizio e600b3 power supply

    Hello,

    This is my 1st time at fixing LED TVs.

    Problem: 5 year old vizio e600b3 suddenly stopped working.

    Issue: After pulling back off the and viewing many, many, videos I replaced my 30+ year old analog ohm-meter and bought a uni-t 61E digital multimeter. I diagnosed the issue as a problem with the Power Board as there was 0 voltage on the 4 - 27 volt pins. I ordered a new PCB from online supplier.

    New Issue: I installed the 'new' power board and I still have 0 voltage on the 4 - 27 volt pins !! I removed the cables connecting the power board to the main board and the readings and received the same readings. I have a pic of the new board with labels on the 27 volt pins.

    Any ideas???
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  • nomoresonys
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    • Jan 2013
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    #2
    Re: vizio e600b3 power supply

    You want to test connector on powerboard with the 15 pins, it's the longer one of the two there. Test connector from mainboard to powerboard on powerboard side with all boards hooked up, test with tv plugged in but off then hit power, report both conditions here, give pin number, pin description/name and condition both off and when you hit power on.
    Last edited by nomoresonys; 07-25-2019, 03:15 PM.
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    • nomoresonys
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      #3
      Re: vizio e600b3 power supply

      Check the fuse on powerboard if you didn't already.
      Quit because THIS SITE LETS A ROGUE MEMBER TYPE ANY GARBAGE HE PLEASES AND THE POWERS THAT BE NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO HE NEVER QUITS. THEN YOU GET A PENALTY FOR RESPONDING TO HIS ATTACKS. BEEN GOING ON FOR WAY TOO LONG. DONE SUPPORTING A SITE THAT ALLOWS THIS BS.

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      • thee8ball
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        #4
        Re: vizio e600b3 power supply

        thanks. will do

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        • nomoresonys
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          #5
          Re: vizio e600b3 power supply

          Testing procedure in second link of signature below if needed.
          Quit because THIS SITE LETS A ROGUE MEMBER TYPE ANY GARBAGE HE PLEASES AND THE POWERS THAT BE NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO HE NEVER QUITS. THEN YOU GET A PENALTY FOR RESPONDING TO HIS ATTACKS. BEEN GOING ON FOR WAY TOO LONG. DONE SUPPORTING A SITE THAT ALLOWS THIS BS.

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          • thee8ball
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            #6
            Re: vizio e600b3 power supply

            I thought ground lead was to the nearest board screw?

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            • nomoresonys
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              #7
              Re: vizio e600b3 power supply

              Lots use chassis/metal back of tv for ground for this testing, meter set at 20 vdc.
              Last edited by nomoresonys; 07-25-2019, 04:05 PM.
              Quit because THIS SITE LETS A ROGUE MEMBER TYPE ANY GARBAGE HE PLEASES AND THE POWERS THAT BE NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO HE NEVER QUITS. THEN YOU GET A PENALTY FOR RESPONDING TO HIS ATTACKS. BEEN GOING ON FOR WAY TOO LONG. DONE SUPPORTING A SITE THAT ALLOWS THIS BS.

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              • R_J
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                • Jun 2012
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                • Canada

                #8
                Re: vizio e600b3 power supply

                Check CN201 (Pins 8or9) for 12 volts, next check pin 3 (PS-ON), press the power button and see if the PS-ON voltage changes. If the PS-ON does not change, it could be a main board fault
                You won't have +27 volts untill the power supply board is turned on (PS-ON) It looks like CN201 pins 10~13 are not used
                When the power supply board is turned on you should get 12V-AU on cn201 pin4
                Last edited by R_J; 07-25-2019, 06:16 PM.

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                • thee8ball
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                  #9
                  Re: vizio e600b3 power supply

                  my ps-on pin3, doesn't change voltage, everything else you said checks out. What is really odd is on the cn301 lead ,pin 8 (isns) is giving me some odd readings: it is all over the place; plugged in - off or power on - between a high of .54v to a low of almost 0v. also it reads almost like there is a charge and disharge in the range. usually it hangs around.22v-.32v. I will type out all the pin voltage reads in the morning. thanks for your help

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                  • thee8ball
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                    #10
                    Re: vizio e600b3 power supply

                    All plugged in off, power on

                    301 cable

                    pin1 27v_led: off-0v, on-0v
                    pin2 27v_led: off-0v, on-0v
                    pin3 27v_led: off-0v, on-0v
                    pin4 27v_led: off-0v, on-0v
                    pin5 gnd: off-0v, on-0v
                    pin6 gnd: off-0v, on-0v
                    pin7 gnd: off-0v, on-0v
                    pin8 isns: off-.12~.65v, on-12~.65v*
                    pin9 vsns: off-0v, on-0v
                    pin10 gnd: off-0v, on-0v


                    201 cable

                    pin1 nc: off-0v, on-0v
                    pin2 ac-det: off-.37v, on-.37v
                    pin3 ps-on: off-3.38v, on-3.38v
                    pin4 12v-au: off-12.3v, on-12.3v
                    pin5 gnd: off-0v, on-0v
                    pin6 gnd: off-0v, on-0v
                    pin7 gnd: off-0v, on-0v
                    pin8 12v: off-12.3v, on-12.3v
                    pin9 12v: off-12.3v, on-12.3v
                    pin10 nc: off-0v, on-0v
                    pin11 led_on: off-0v, on-0v
                    pin12 led_br: off-0v, on-0v
                    pin13 nc: off-0v, on-0v
                    pin14 12v t con:off-0v, on-0v
                    pin15 t con_on:off-0v, on-0v

                    * these readings don't make sense but I have duplicated them on numerous times
                    Last edited by thee8ball; 07-25-2019, 11:58 PM.

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                    • budm
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                      • Feb 2010
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                      #11
                      Re: vizio e600b3 power supply

                      https://assets.shopjimmy.com/media/c...030-00-top.jpg
                      What Voltage do you when measured between the two legs of either one of the two main filter caps (68uf 450vdc rated) in the hot side? It should be about 380 ~ 400VDC.
                      The main board is also not sending any control signals on pin 11, 12, 14, and 15 (without pin's names) of cn201.
                      Last edited by budm; 07-26-2019, 12:04 AM.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • nomoresonys
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                        #12
                        Re: vizio e600b3 power supply

                        Seems like a mainboard fault, try with tv unplugged from outlet, unplug cable from powerboard to mainboard, plug tv back into outlet, take readings on the same pins 1-15 see what you get, be careful to only touch one pin at a time with probe.
                        Quit because THIS SITE LETS A ROGUE MEMBER TYPE ANY GARBAGE HE PLEASES AND THE POWERS THAT BE NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO HE NEVER QUITS. THEN YOU GET A PENALTY FOR RESPONDING TO HIS ATTACKS. BEEN GOING ON FOR WAY TOO LONG. DONE SUPPORTING A SITE THAT ALLOWS THIS BS.

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                        • thee8ball
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                          #13
                          Re: vizio e600b3 power supply

                          Originally posted by budm
                          What Voltage do you when measured between the two legs of either one of the two main filter caps (68uf 450vdc rated) in the hot side? It should be about 380 ~ 400VDC.
                          Can I measure this with a multimeter while the cap is on the board? I thought I need an evr?

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                          • budm
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                            • Feb 2010
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                            #14
                            Re: vizio e600b3 power supply

                            Originally posted by thee8ball
                            Can I measure this with a multimeter while the cap is on the board? I thought I need an evr?
                            Of course you have to test the Voltage between the two legs of the cap with it still on board and TV is plugged in and powered up, you will be working in the deadly side of the circuit so I hope you know what you are doing. We are trying to find out if the PFC Voltage booster circuit is working or not.
                            What is 'evr'?
                            Last edited by budm; 07-26-2019, 09:50 AM.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • nomoresonys
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                              #15
                              Re: vizio e600b3 power supply

                              EVR=ENERGY VERIFYING RAYGUN.
                              Quit because THIS SITE LETS A ROGUE MEMBER TYPE ANY GARBAGE HE PLEASES AND THE POWERS THAT BE NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO HE NEVER QUITS. THEN YOU GET A PENALTY FOR RESPONDING TO HIS ATTACKS. BEEN GOING ON FOR WAY TOO LONG. DONE SUPPORTING A SITE THAT ALLOWS THIS BS.

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                              • thee8ball
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                                #16
                                Re: vizio e600b3 power supply

                                I decided to use my Energy Verifying Raygun (EVR) and now Everything works! The esr meter was worthless.

                                Well, I do know it was the power not the main board because I was mixing up 2 power boards - and one them works. And, The tv turned on and the voltages were okay.

                                I want to thank nomoresonys and budm for Taking the time to help me. Hope next time to have a more challenging project.

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                                • nomoresonys
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                                  #17
                                  Re: vizio e600b3 power supply

                                  Glad to hear, lets keep saving them.
                                  Quit because THIS SITE LETS A ROGUE MEMBER TYPE ANY GARBAGE HE PLEASES AND THE POWERS THAT BE NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO HE NEVER QUITS. THEN YOU GET A PENALTY FOR RESPONDING TO HIS ATTACKS. BEEN GOING ON FOR WAY TOO LONG. DONE SUPPORTING A SITE THAT ALLOWS THIS BS.

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