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  • Tim K
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    • Jul 2019
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    #21
    Re: LG55LS4500 picture went bye bye

    Originally posted by budm
    1) Check the reistance between VGH and Ground to see what you get.
    2) Disconnect the cables between T-CON and the LCD panel and see what VGH will be.
    BTW, VGL is the LCD minus power supply so it should show as minus reading on your meter, I.E. -6.85V.
    Here is some info about LCD Bias power supply function:
    Sorry, I didn't even notice, but YES both VGL and VGH were actually negative values.
    VGL: -6.85
    VGH: - 0.77

    VGH resistance to ground is 1.52
    With both cables disconnected resistance was the same.

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #22
      Re: LG55LS4500 picture went bye bye

      Originally posted by Tim K
      Sorry, I didn't even notice, but YES both VGL and VGH were actually negative values.
      VGL: -6.85
      VGH: - 0.77

      VGH resistance to ground is 1.52
      With both cables disconnected resistance was the same.
      1.52 Ohms? Start check the caps connected to that VGH pad, you have shorts some where.
      I see caps C182, 183 which are filter caps for the VGH, so remove them to see if the shorts go away or not.
      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...2&d=1564087548
      Last edited by budm; 07-26-2019, 12:56 PM.
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • Tim K
        Member
        • Jul 2019
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        #23
        Re: LG55LS4500 picture went bye bye

        Originally posted by budm
        1.52 Ohms? Start check the caps connected to that VGH pad, you have shorts some where.
        I see caps C182, 183 which are filter caps for the VGH, so remove them to see if the shorts go away or not.
        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...2&d=1564087548
        When you say "remove them" what do you mean?

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #24
          Re: LG55LS4500 picture went bye bye

          Unsolder the caps.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • Tim K
            Member
            • Jul 2019
            • 16
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            #25
            Re: LG55LS4500 picture went bye bye

            Originally posted by budm
            Unsolder the caps.
            How confident are you that the problem lies somewhere on the T-con board? At some point I may just want to replace it for $20 rather than start unsoldering things I can barely see.

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #26
              Re: LG55LS4500 picture went bye bye

              Well, that 1.52 Ohm reading on VGH without LCD panel connected is definitely not right.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • Tim K
                Member
                • Jul 2019
                • 16
                • US

                #27
                Re: LG55LS4500 picture went bye bye

                Originally posted by budm
                Well, that 1.52 Ohm reading on VGH without LCD panel connected is definitely not right.
                At this point I don't mind spending $20 on a new T-con if that's the cause. I'd just hate to do it and that not fix things. Is there any way to rule out there being a problem on the other boards?

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                • nomoresonys
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 12075
                  • U.S.

                  #28
                  Re: LG55LS4500 picture went bye bye

                  Well did you check the caps for shorts ala post 22??

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: LG55LS4500 picture went bye bye

                    Originally posted by Tim K
                    At this point I don't mind spending $20 on a new T-con if that's the cause. I'd just hate to do it and that not fix things. Is there any way to rule out there being a problem on the other boards?
                    So you are willing to spend $20 on KNOWN GOOD WORKING T-CON (make sure to match the bar coed sticker numbers not the white silkscreen printing on the board) on 55 inch TV, then just do it.
                    I gave free guide troubleshooting steps by step to get to this point at no charge which is worth a lot more than $20.
                    We know that the backlights is working and the main board is sending the command signal to turn on the power supply and the backlights circuits, that is all we know at this point.
                    Last edited by budm; 07-28-2019, 01:48 PM.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • Tim K
                      Member
                      • Jul 2019
                      • 16
                      • US

                      #30
                      Re: LG55LS4500 picture went bye bye

                      Originally posted by budm
                      So you are willing to spend $20 on KNOWN GOOD WORKING T-CON (make sure to match the bar coed sticker numbers not the white silkscreen printing on the board) on 55 inch TV, then just do it.
                      I gave free guide troubleshooting steps by step to get to this point at no charge which is worth a lot more than $20.
                      We know that the backlights is working and the main board is sending the command signal to turn on the power supply and the backlights circuits, that is all we know at this point.
                      It's not that I don't appreciate the help, or that $20 is nothing....it's just I don't think I can proceed any further. I was able to remove and replace a ceramic disc capacitor last year without any problem, but I don't have the precision tools or the dexterity to unsolder 2 tiny caps. Even if I managed to remove them without damaging the board, I don't think I would ever be able to solder them back in place.

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                      • nomoresonys
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 12075
                        • U.S.

                        #31
                        Re: LG55LS4500 picture went bye bye

                        Ok, test the caps on the board, see if they read shorted.

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