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  • rebelkustoms
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2015
    • 150
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    #1

    Vizio VO32L FHDTV 10A Powers ON will not Power OFF No Pic or Sound

    For Your Consideration I have a Vizio VO32L FHDTV 10A That has standby and powers on via the power button but has no picture or sound and will not power off (must be unplugged ).

    Let me start with the history of repairs, I got this one a long time ago and if I remember correctly it was DOA, no power, no standby. I recapped the power supply (if you look at the picture I had to slightly mod the heat sink to accommodate the taller caps. I put it back together last year sometime and it did exactly what it does now. Standby Light is on at Plug In. Power on with the set button, logo turns white, I dont hear a relay click, but I have my voltages, even have the 24v for the lamps running while it is powered on. So when I first had this problem immediately after fixing the PS I disassembled the cover to the power board, etc to check all voltages and turned it on in the middle of testing things and Voila, IT WORKED. several times for sevral hours at a time I tested it and it worked. So I put the back on it loosley and set it on the shelf waiting on the bedroom TV to go out.

    Recently I wanted to put it into service so i took the back off and put all covers on and all screws where they go and when it got to its destination, BACK TO HAVING THIS POWER PROBLEM AGAIN.

    SO as it sits right now, it is having the same problem. Plugs in, has standby, powers on, No Screen, No Sound, and cannot power off unless it is unplugged. I fiddled around with tightening board screws and trying to see if I had a loose cable or a ground issue and I am pretty much stumped. Trying to avoid buying a board because they are either in short supply or being sold as is. Any Help is Appreciated I THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR ALL THE INFO ON THIS FORUM IT IS PRICELESS. THANKS IN ADVANCE.
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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
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    #2
    Re: Vizio VO32L FHDTV 10A Powers ON will not Power OFF No Pic or Sound

    "cannot power off unless it is unplugged" Main board is not working properly.
    You need to report the Voltage of all the pins of the power supply connector that goes to the main board, there are pin labels for all those pins on the power supply board.
    I suspect that the main board may have bad regulator IC's which is the common failure in Vizio TV's.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • CapLeaker
      Leaking Member
      • Dec 2014
      • 8325
      • Canada

      #3
      Re: Vizio VO32L FHDTV 10A Powers ON will not Power OFF No Pic or Sound

      ... and bad solder joints...

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      • rebelkustoms
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2015
        • 150
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        #4
        Re: Vizio VO32L FHDTV 10A Powers ON will not Power OFF No Pic or Sound

        Ok so I tested voltages with power on and here is what I came up with. Starting with the PWR pin = 2.6V next the three +12V pins from right to left = 11.73, 11.74, 11.74 then the four GND pins from right to left = All read 0V. Finally the +5V from right to left = 5.14, 5.14, 5.14 . And A and B pins read 0V. See Pic.
        (Sorry the phone auto flipped the pic but you get the idea from the labeled pins i guess)
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        Last edited by rebelkustoms; 05-09-2018, 01:23 AM.

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Vizio VO32L FHDTV 10A Powers ON will not Power OFF No Pic or Sound

          Are reading taken with all the boards connected?
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • rebelkustoms
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2015
            • 150
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            #6
            Re: Vizio VO32L FHDTV 10A Powers ON will not Power OFF No Pic or Sound

            Originally posted by budm
            Are reading taken with all the boards connected?
            Yes that is powered on with all boards plugged in.

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Vizio VO32L FHDTV 10A Powers ON will not Power OFF No Pic or Sound

              Originally posted by rebelkustoms
              Yes that is powered on with all boards plugged in.
              OK, so the main board is sending the PS-ON to turn on the rest of the power supply but the main board is not sending and BL-ON, or DIm command signals on the 'A' and 'B' pins.
              You need to start checking fuses and Voltage regultor IC's on the main board next.
              You can read up on how to test the Voltage regulator here:
              https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...999#post300999
              Also look at the spec sheet of the IC so you will know what each pin is.
              Last edited by budm; 05-09-2018, 01:38 PM.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • rebelkustoms
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2015
                • 150
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                #8
                Re: Vizio VO32L FHDTV 10A Powers ON will not Power OFF No Pic or Sound

                OK I have tested the voltages you suggested. I included a diagram of locations of each on the board they are circled and labeled.

                Starting with the 2 Fuses where the main board/Ps connection is. (circled in blue)
                Fuse 1 5v constant
                Fuse 2 11.73 V with set turned on

                Here are Id's and Voltages for the Regulators (circled in orange)

                U16
                AZ7805T-EI
                825011
                Pin 1 - 11.72 (Vin)
                Pin 2 - 0 (GND)
                Pin 3 - 5 (Vout)

                U19
                L021
                G1117
                Pin 1 - 1.25
                Pin 2 - 2.5
                Pin 3 - 5.0

                U21
                L021
                G1117
                Pin 1 - 0
                Pin 2 - 1.24
                Pin 3 - 2.5

                U20
                1084
                0851LL
                Pin 1 - 0 (GND)
                Pin 2 - 1.8 (Vout)
                Pin 3 - 3.2 (Vin)

                U17
                L021
                G1117
                Pin 1 - 2.0
                Pin 2 - 3.3
                Pin 3 - 5.0

                U22
                L021
                G1117
                Pin 1 - 2.0
                Pin 2 - 3.3
                Pin 3 - 5.0

                U15
                1084
                0851LL
                Pin 1 - 2.0 (GND)
                Pin 2 - 3.3 (Vout)
                Pin 3 - 5.0 (Vin)

                U44
                L023
                G9117
                Pin 1 - 8.3
                Pin 2 - 9.5
                Pin 3 - 11.7

                Hope I did all that right for you, Thanks Again.
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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Vizio VO32L FHDTV 10A Powers ON will not Power OFF No Pic or Sound

                  They are all OK, may need to try doing the reset but I do not remember exactly how.
                  I think you push the power button for 30 seconds and let go, I have do the research on that since I have not done one for a long long time.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • rebelkustoms
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2015
                    • 150
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Vizio VO32L FHDTV 10A Powers ON will not Power OFF No Pic or Sound

                    I will look it up. I tried that a few nights ago not sure if I did it right. Is it normal for that transistor looking IC (U15) to have 2.0 V at ground? Other similar ones read 0 V at GND pin.
                    Last edited by rebelkustoms; 05-10-2018, 09:56 PM.

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Vizio VO32L FHDTV 10A Powers ON will not Power OFF No Pic or Sound

                      U15 is adjustable regulator.
                      The output of regulator should always be = to Voltage on pin 1 + 1.25Vref.
                      I.E. U19: Pin 1 = 1.25 so the output should be 1.25V + 1.25Vref = 2.5V Vout.
                      The Voltage between pin 1 (adj) and pin 2 (Vout) should always be 1.25V (+/-3% typ.).
                      Some time they install Adjustable regulator in place of the fixed regulator but they did not change the silkscreen to call pin 1 as ADJ. The board lay out is made to accept both type of regulator, all they have to do is installing the appropriate jumper or resistors for the needed regulator.
                      Last edited by budm; 05-10-2018, 10:04 PM.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • rebelkustoms
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2015
                        • 150
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Vizio VO32L FHDTV 10A Powers ON will not Power OFF No Pic or Sound

                        Good, yea since they had it labeled I didn't quite understand if that was fixed or adjustable since it also was a larger IC.(still learning) I will try doing a reset and see what I get.

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                        • rebelkustoms
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2015
                          • 150
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Vizio VO32L FHDTV 10A Powers ON will not Power OFF No Pic or Sound

                          I did a power cycle today not having any luck. Vizio says hold power button for 10secs I did the power cycle a few times and held it for up to a min. No Luck.

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Vizio VO32L FHDTV 10A Powers ON will not Power OFF No Pic or Sound

                            There is EEPROM for your board (Vizio VO32LFHDTV10A 3632-0602-0150 Main Board U28 EEPROM ONLY):
                            http://www.shopjimmy.com/vizio-vo32l...eprom-only.htm
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                            Comment

                            • rebelkustoms
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2015
                              • 150
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Vizio VO32L FHDTV 10A Powers ON will not Power OFF No Pic or Sound

                              I was doing some research on problema in similar models and I ran into a video with a 42 in Vizio I believe, similar symptoms and most everything checked out, the guy even ordered a new lamp driver board thinking it was that, but come to find out it was two caps on the main board that were not giving sufficient voltage to tell it to turn on. Main board and layout of PS and lamp board looked almost identical so judging by the bad caps he showed O think I am gonna pull CE17 and 13 the two larger green caps in the upper left if you refer to pics. Its at least worth my time to test them. I have an ESR meter.

                              Link to vid
                              https://youtu.be/AUm9AVvZo9k
                              Last edited by rebelkustoms; 05-11-2018, 12:51 PM.

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Vizio VO32L FHDTV 10A Powers ON will not Power OFF No Pic or Sound

                                Great, lets us know what you find out.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • rebelkustoms
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Sep 2015
                                  • 150
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Vizio VO32L FHDTV 10A Powers ON will not Power OFF No Pic or Sound

                                  I just posted a link to the Video also

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                                  • rebelkustoms
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Sep 2015
                                    • 150
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Vizio VO32L FHDTV 10A Powers ON will not Power OFF No Pic or Sound

                                    Well I uprooted those few caps and tested them out of circuit and they were well within range. I would say I am at my limit here but this is just an extra set I am toying with hoping to learn some main board diagnostic and repair so I dont really care all that much but at this point I am kind of out of ideas on this project. So if anyone has a theory I havent tried I would appreciate any input. Thanks guys I love learning through trial and error on these projects.

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                                    • CapLeaker
                                      Leaking Member
                                      • Dec 2014
                                      • 8325
                                      • Canada

                                      #19
                                      Re: Vizio VO32L FHDTV 10A Powers ON will not Power OFF No Pic or Sound

                                      Replace the EEPROM. For shits and giggles, freeze the EEPROM with a can of air upside down, then turn the TV on. Chances are about 70% finding a bad EEPROM this way. Other than that, replacement EEPROMs as cheap to be had, so you could get a replacement and see what happens

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                                      • ivtec
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Dec 2008
                                        • 1967
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Vizio VO32L FHDTV 10A Powers ON will not Power OFF No Pic or Sound

                                        Originally posted by CapLeaker
                                        Replace the EEPROM. For shits and giggles, freeze the EEPROM with a can of air upside down, then turn the TV on. Chances are about 70% finding a bad EEPROM this way. Other than that, replacement EEPROMs as cheap to be had, so you could get a replacement and see what happens
                                        Hi capleaker; does the Epprom comes pre-programmed? i have Vizio E320-B2 in same symptoms and suggested fix the epprom!

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