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  • Michale32086
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    Panasonic TC-60PS34 Dead As The Proverbial Doornail...

    Got in a really nice, clean Panny TC60PS34... Normally, the bigger plasmas I just pass on, but this is too nice not to at least make an effort..

    There is no visible power and the power button felt... "squishy"...

    So, I took a look.. Looks like the power button has seen better days.. So, I get my hopes up and try to turn on with a remote..

    No such luck...

    Turns out that when I say "dead" I mean really dead.. No power clicks, no relay clicks no nothing when plugged in..

    Fuses all check out..

    I am always confused about Panny's designations on the board, so I am hoping someone can walk me thru checking voltages on the Sustain boards..
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  • freakaftr8
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    Re: Panasonic TC-60PS34 Dead As The Proverbial Doornail...

    Check this blue capacitor highlighted in my pictuure on the main power supply. Is it blown open. Look close.
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    Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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    • freakaftr8
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      Re: Panasonic TC-60PS34 Dead As The Proverbial Doornail...

      The IC underneath the heat sink near that capacitor is known to short circuit blowing this capacitor. If it is blown I would either take that aluminum sync off and look at the IC and replace it along with the capacitor. I never remembered the specs on the capacitor as I didn't write it down at the time I repaired one. This controls the PFC circuit.

      You may also find a power supply on the Internet relatively inexpensive. The sub supply is most likely fine just the main bigger supply is the one you wanna replace
      Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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      • jetadm123
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        Re: Panasonic TC-60PS34 Dead As The Proverbial Doornail...

        Coppell TV did a YouTube video for a different Pany, but with same power supply as yours:

        www.youtube.com/watch?v=EShySnyZl1E


        He basically saw the same capacitor(c404) burned up as Freak mentioned. And he does check the IC under the heatsink mentioned above and finds it shorted. Also, a diode should be checked (see video) with that IC removed.
        Last edited by jetadm123; 03-08-2018, 03:50 PM.

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        • Michale32086
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          Re: Panasonic TC-60PS34 Dead As The Proverbial Doornail...

          Thanx for the replies.. It was poker night tonight..

          I'll check it out first thing in the AM..

          Thanx again...

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          • Michale32086
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            Re: Panasonic TC-60PS34 Dead As The Proverbial Doornail...

            OK Just got in.. Haven't pulled the board out yet to look at the under side, but this is what it looks like on top..
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            • tom66
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              Re: Panasonic TC-60PS34 Dead As The Proverbial Doornail...

              looks fine to me
              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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              • Michale32086
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                Re: Panasonic TC-60PS34 Dead As The Proverbial Doornail...

                Yep.. According to the video, that cap had an obvious burn out.. This one looks clean..

                Gonna pull the board and look at the underside..

                Just as soon as we get out of the 30s Fahrenheit temp wise...

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                • Michale32086
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                  Re: Panasonic TC-60PS34 Dead As The Proverbial Doornail...

                  OK Braved the cold...

                  Here's what the backside looks like.

                  Looks clean...

                  "Light is green.. Trap is clean.."
                  -Ray Stantz, GHOSTBUSTERS

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                  • freakaftr8
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                    Re: Panasonic TC-60PS34 Dead As The Proverbial Doornail...

                    Do in ohms test and check across that C404 for a short. That light blue spot from that cap looks suspicious. I have seen these short but not show symptoms on the outside when they blew open before.

                    30 degrees in Florida! Damn, the world coming to an end! We had snow in Sacramento last week....
                    Last edited by freakaftr8; 03-09-2018, 09:29 AM.
                    Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                    • Michale32086
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                      Re: Panasonic TC-60PS34 Dead As The Proverbial Doornail...

                      Originally posted by freakaftr8
                      Do in ohms test and check across that C404 for a short. That light blue spot from that cap looks suspicious. I have seen these short but not show symptoms on the outside when they blew open before.
                      Will do.. I have a SHARP 52 LED SMART on the bench I am just finishing up on. Give me about 10...


                      30 degrees in Florida! Damn, the world coming to an end! We had snow in Sacramento last week....
                      I know, right! This has been a brutal cold winter.. Last month we had a week where the highs barely crawled into the 40...

                      Kinda a pain when your work area is outdoors..
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                      • Michale32086
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                        Re: Panasonic TC-60PS34 Dead As The Proverbial Doornail...

                        Originally posted by freakaftr8
                        Do in ohms test and check across that C404 for a short. That light blue spot from that cap looks suspicious. I have seen these short but not show symptoms on the outside when they blew open before.
                        OK, forgive me if this is way off base.. I am a rank amateur when it comes to weilding a volt meter..

                        There is no direct short across the CAP C404...

                        When I use the probes as pictured, I get a reading of 17.4 MU that slowly counts down...
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                        • freakaftr8
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                          Re: Panasonic TC-60PS34 Dead As The Proverbial Doornail...

                          Yea you do what you gotta do. That's how it goes
                          Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                          • freakaftr8
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                            Re: Panasonic TC-60PS34 Dead As The Proverbial Doornail...

                            Check between here and here on ohms test. If it's shorted or reading 0 or making the meter beep, the IC is bad.

                            This area is under C404 and the IC under the heat sync pin 3
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                            Last edited by freakaftr8; 03-09-2018, 10:46 AM.
                            Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                            • Michale32086
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                              Re: Panasonic TC-60PS34 Dead As The Proverbial Doornail...

                              I can order a replacement board for around 50 bucks.. But I hate to pack it up and then unpack it when the board comes in...

                              Plus it would be nice to have it out for the weekend..
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                              • freakaftr8
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                                Re: Panasonic TC-60PS34 Dead As The Proverbial Doornail...

                                OK looks like that IC is apparantly good. I would check voltage across the main on the power supply to see if you're idle at 170 V DC around there.

                                Also I'm pretty sure you checked all fuses?
                                Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                                • Michale32086
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                                  Re: Panasonic TC-60PS34 Dead As The Proverbial Doornail...

                                  Yep.. All fuses are good.. One sec for the voltage checks..

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                                  • Michale32086
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                                    Re: Panasonic TC-60PS34 Dead As The Proverbial Doornail...

                                    Originally posted by freakaftr8
                                    OK looks like that IC is apparantly good. I would check voltage across the main on the power supply to see if you're idle at 170 V DC around there.

                                    Also I'm pretty sure you checked all fuses?
                                    Pin 6 on the Main Board Connector had 5.07V.. All the rest were either 0v or mV range...
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                                    • freakaftr8
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                                      Re: Panasonic TC-60PS34 Dead As The Proverbial Doornail...

                                      Looks like pin6 is standby. Is there a legend on the power supply? Try pulling P34 and or the connector below it. Maybe thus will bypass PS-on.

                                      We need to get readings on the main caps of the power supply to see if HOT side is in standby. Like I said before there should be about a 170 V DC across the main capacitor legs on the power supply in standby
                                      Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                                      • Michale32086
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                                        Re: Panasonic TC-60PS34 Dead As The Proverbial Doornail...

                                        Originally posted by freakaftr8
                                        Looks like pin6 is standby. Is there a legend on the power supply?
                                        Nope.. No legend I can find...

                                        Try pulling P34 and or the connector below it. Maybe thus will bypass PS-on.
                                        Have to be a little more explicit. I usually don't get into the nitty gritty of this kind of stuff.. Usually just replace the board..


                                        We need to get readings on the main caps of the power supply to see if HOT side is in standby. Like I said before there should be about a 170 V DC across the main capacitor legs on the power supply in standby
                                        Any specific caps I should be checking?? I mean, which are the main caps??

                                        Thanx for all the help..
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