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  • sdinelli
    Sdinelli
    • Aug 2014
    • 152
    • USA

    #1

    visio vx37l resistor indentity help

    tv model: vx37lhdtv20A
    power supply: DPS-247APB
    no standby power
    found two transistors shorted all ways (model STP12NM50FP )
    found one resistor burned up

    resistor Is burned right where the ohm is printed and I cant read it.
    I need help trying to figure out the value.
    It says "F1J' and also what looks like some symbol &"60B"

    The resistor goes from the positive side of main filter cap and connects to the drain of one of the blown transistors as well as one leg of a transformer

    PLease help If possible
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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: visio vx37l resistor indentity help

    That is the fusible resistor, probably <1 Ohm range.
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    • sdinelli
      Sdinelli
      • Aug 2014
      • 152
      • USA

      #3
      Re: visio vx37l resistor indentity help

      Originally posted by budm
      That is the fusible resistor, probably <1 Ohm range.
      thank you
      would you be able to recommend a replacement?

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      • jiroy
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jun 2016
        • 2416
        • Lebanon

        #4
        Re: visio vx37l resistor indentity help

        Can you put a picture and some mark on the location of this F1J ?

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        • tw2005
          Badcaps Legend
          • Oct 2011
          • 6457
          • Australia

          #5
          Re: visio vx37l resistor indentity help

          Originally posted by jiroy
          Can you put a picture and some mark on the location of this F1J ?
          R805 I would say.

          I'll have a guess. First symbol is looking like a R so 0.? And the number has a curve so I'm thinking a 2 or 3. I'm going with 3 So 0.3 ohm.

          Let me know what the prize is if I'm correct.

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          • jiroy
            Badcaps Legend
            • Jun 2016
            • 2416
            • Lebanon

            #6
            Re: visio vx37l resistor indentity help

            Originally posted by tw2005
            R805 I would say.

            I'll have a guess. First symbol is looking like a R so 0.? And the number has a curve so I'm thinking a 2 or 3. I'm going with 3 So 0.3 ohm.

            Let me know what the prize is if I'm correct.
            Yes , It is labeled R3Ξ© ,so it's 0.3 Ξ©. You're a winner ..

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            • tw2005
              Badcaps Legend
              • Oct 2011
              • 6457
              • Australia

              #7
              Re: visio vx37l resistor indentity help

              Originally posted by jiroy
              Yes , It is labeled R3Ξ© ,so it's 0.3 Ξ©. You're a winner ..
              Do you have a live one in captivity to refer to? LOL.

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              • jiroy
                Badcaps Legend
                • Jun 2016
                • 2416
                • Lebanon

                #8
                Re: visio vx37l resistor indentity help

                Originally posted by tw2005
                Do you have a live one in captivity to refer to? LOL.
                In my stock of used parts , i'm sure i can find a dozen , but still , Lebanon is very far , unless you wanna wait ..
                In case you didn't find it , i'm ready , send me your E-mail

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                • tw2005
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 6457
                  • Australia

                  #9
                  Re: visio vx37l resistor indentity help

                  Originally posted by jiroy
                  In my stock of used parts , i'm sure i can find a dozen , but still , Lebanon is very far , unless you wanna wait ..
                  In case you didn't find it , i'm ready , send me your E-mail
                  I'm not the original poster.Not after one, I just wanted to know if you had one of these boards and confirmed it was that .

                  You seemed very certain.

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                  • jiroy
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Jun 2016
                    • 2416
                    • Lebanon

                    #10
                    Re: visio vx37l resistor indentity help

                    Originally posted by tw2005
                    I'm not the original poster.Not after one, I just wanted to know if you had one of these boards and confirmed it was that .

                    You seemed very certain.
                    Ah well ; No , i don't have the board , but i have the schematic , and frankly , this one came with many restrictions and warnings considering publishing . That's all..

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                    • sdinelli
                      Sdinelli
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 152
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: visio vx37l resistor indentity help

                      sorry for being MIA. Busy Weekend.
                      Now that you say it. I think you all are right.

                      For the next $million question..........
                      How far do you think the damage went?
                      I have R623 reading 4.8ohms
                      R621A = 24.6ohms
                      R62B = 15.7ohms
                      R618 & R620 (resistors between source and gate) are 20kohms
                      reading 19.93ohm and 20ohms



                      What else should I check?
                      what are the chances the surge blew back into IC 601
                      thanks for the help amigos
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                      • sdinelli
                        Sdinelli
                        • Aug 2014
                        • 152
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: visio vx37l resistor indentity help

                        SO I replaced the 2 transistors and the resistor.
                        Now I have standby
                        psON is up at 4.6V and visio turns from amber to white
                        BUT I'm only getting about 1-2V on my 12V and 24V

                        I checked and I'm getting 472Vdc on the big diode (ZD902) behind the transformer in the picture.

                        Any suggestions?

                        Also, theres a faint buzzing coming from the new transistors I installed. doesnt that mean the voltage is too low or something?
                        Last edited by sdinelli; 07-09-2017, 08:20 PM.

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                        • dskall
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Oct 2016
                          • 2905
                          • usa

                          #13
                          Re: visio vx37l resistor indentity help

                          472v seems rather high
                          I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: visio vx37l resistor indentity help

                            Sounds like using the wrong GND Ref. for the meter.
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                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
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                            • sdinelli
                              Sdinelli
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 152
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: visio vx37l resistor indentity help

                              yeah I thought it sounded high. lol should I be using the negative side of the main cap?
                              should I measure ac or dc?

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: visio vx37l resistor indentity help

                                Negative leg of the main filter cap is the GND ref. for the primary side of the circuit.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • attainteddragon
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Apr 2013
                                  • 764
                                  • australia

                                  #17
                                  Re: visio vx37l resistor indentity help

                                  a diode will block ac, so when checking voltages on the cathode, you test in dc.
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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: visio vx37l resistor indentity help

                                    Originally posted by attainteddragon
                                    a diode will block ac, so when checking voltages on the cathode, you test in dc.
                                    It will block half the cycle of the feeding AC in rectifying circuit.
                                    http://www.visionics.a.se/html/curri...ectifier1.html
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • sdinelli
                                      Sdinelli
                                      • Aug 2014
                                      • 152
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: visio vx37l resistor indentity help

                                      Thank you for the info guys. hot and cold sides confuse me

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                                      • sdinelli
                                        Sdinelli
                                        • Aug 2014
                                        • 152
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: visio vx37l resistor indentity help

                                        ummm soo yeah using the negative leg of main filter cap got me 528Vdc on the cathode of that diode. and 406Vdc on the anode.
                                        I don't get it.
                                        With the device in standby i have 194Vdc on the cathode of the diode
                                        .
                                        Last edited by sdinelli; 07-15-2017, 10:23 AM.

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