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  • Frost3h
    Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 13
    • Australia

    #1

    Panasonic Viera LED TH60CX700A - Sound / Backlights Working - No Picture

    Hi Everyone,

    Looking for a little advice.

    I acquired a 60" Panasonic LED (TH-60CX700A) a few months ago and have been idly trying to fix it. I got told it had no picture yet backlights and sound were still working, my testing confirmed this so it looked like a simple TCON replacement would solve the issue.

    Obtained a new TCON board (LC600EQF-PHF1-8A1) and installed with the same results. I figured at this point the TCON wasn't being supplied with a video signal (TV shows up on a laptop when I connect a HDMI and I'm able to get sound out) so I replaced the LVDS cables and the mainboard. Still no picture. I've tried disconnecting one half of the cables going to the tcon (both the 41pin and the 51 pin) while leaving the other side plugged in but no picture is displayed. If I disconnect both tcon cables the TV will cycle through primary colours until powered off.

    I've read over the documentation provided in BudM's LCD TV and Monitor basic troubleshooting guides and quoting from the documentation I'm assuming this is the issue:

    "Logic board supplies 5 or 12vdc to T-CON board B+ pin through switched transistor if T-CON board does not get the voltage from the logic board, you will get white/gray glowing screen without pictures."

    If I power on the TV and use the remote, the backlight changes as if it was adapting to what is supposed to be shown on screen so this part seems to be functioning as intended.

    So now I'm looking at the power to the mainboard / tcon as being the issue, I'm slightly amiss as to where to go from here though, I'm an IT tech by trade so I'm comfortable swapping out boards and cables without much issue, my electronics skills are very VERY lacking but at this stage I'd be ever so grateful if someone can provide some direction. I've got a multimeter and can test if pointed in the right direction. At this point I'm thinking the issue is with Power board A which has the white cable running to the mainboard)

    I've looked at the power boards feeding the mainboard and I can't see any bulging caps or discoloured parts, but a more trained eye might be able to spot something.

    Any help is greatly appreciated!

    TH-60CX700A
    Part numbers:
    Mainboard: TNPH11202A
    TCON: LC600EQF-PHF1-8A1
    Power board A: TNPA6060DC
    Power board B: TNPA6074FR

    Photos attached of all the boards.
    Edit: Apparently being from Australia means all your images upload upside down or something, fixed now, apologies.

    Thankyou!
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    Last edited by Frost3h; 01-04-2017, 03:48 AM.
  • Frost3h
    Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 13
    • Australia

    #2
    Re: Panasonic Viera LED TH60CX700A - Sound / Backlights Working - No Picture

    Hey guys,

    Shameless bump.

    I've now swapped out the power board (TNPA6060DC) with no luck.

    Any suggestions on where to troubleshoot next or even telling me the panel is dead would be greatly appreciated.

    If I attempt to put the TV in test pattern mode (volume down + 3 yellow button on the remote) it begins its colour flash and cycle pattern.

    Thanks everyone.

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    • vinceroger69
      Badcaps Legend
      • Mar 2012
      • 6714
      • uk

      #3
      Re: Panasonic Viera LED TH60CX700A - Sound / Backlights Working - No Picture

      have you confirmed you have voltage to both sides of the fuse on the tcon board? (top right under connector white oblong fuse)

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      • Frost3h
        Member
        • Mar 2016
        • 13
        • Australia

        #4
        Re: Panasonic Viera LED TH60CX700A - Sound / Backlights Working - No Picture

        Originally posted by vinceroger69
        have you confirmed you have voltage to both sides of the fuse on the tcon board? (top right under connector white oblong fuse)
        Hey mate,

        Just checked it then, 12v on either side of the fuse.

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        • diif
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2014
          • 6978
          • England

          #5
          Re: Panasonic Viera LED TH60CX700A - Sound / Backlights Working - No Picture

          Top left in your t-con photo. There looks to be a ceramic cap not right ?
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          • Frost3h
            Member
            • Mar 2016
            • 13
            • Australia

            #6
            Re: Panasonic Viera LED TH60CX700A - Sound / Backlights Working - No Picture

            Originally posted by diif
            Top left in your t-con photo. There looks to be a ceramic cap not right ?
            Looks like that one is definitely damaged. It's refreshing to know I've missed things as this has been driving me a bit spare for a while now

            I've attached an image of the replacement TCon I swapped over to (same issue with no picture coming through)
            Attached Files

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            • diif
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2014
              • 6978
              • England

              #7
              Re: Panasonic Viera LED TH60CX700A - Sound / Backlights Working - No Picture

              And you've checked the voltage on both sides of the fuse on the replaced t-con ?

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              • flocko
                Badcaps Legend
                • Nov 2012
                • 1121
                • uk

                #8
                Re: Panasonic Viera LED TH60CX700A - Sound / Backlights Working - No Picture

                the part number showing on the first T.con is 4075A the replacement shows 3987A , have you checked that this is a compatible T.Con replacement?

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                • Frost3h
                  Member
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 13
                  • Australia

                  #9
                  Re: Panasonic Viera LED TH60CX700A - Sound / Backlights Working - No Picture

                  Originally posted by diif
                  And you've checked the voltage on both sides of the fuse on the replaced t-con ?
                  Confirmed 12V on either side of the replacement

                  Originally posted by flocko
                  the part number showing on the first T.con is 4075A the replacement shows 3987A , have you checked that this is a compatible T.Con replacement?
                  That part I regret to say I glossed over unfortunately

                  In terms of repairing the original tcon, how could I go about figuring out what the values of the ceramic cap that was damaged was?

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                  • diif
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 6978
                    • England

                    #10
                    Re: Panasonic Viera LED TH60CX700A - Sound / Backlights Working - No Picture

                    The ceramic cap looks to have broken off and slipped diagonally ?
                    Can't tell from the photo how bad the damage is but you could try and solder it back or measure the cap on your other t-con.

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                    • flocko
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 1121
                      • uk

                      #11
                      Re: Panasonic Viera LED TH60CX700A - Sound / Backlights Working - No Picture

                      The only hope you have is to find the correct T.Con . you could have caused damage to the main board or screen drivers by fitting the incorrect board, as this set uses the LG panel with a Panasonic main board the T,Con also acts to interface the two, so you would need a working 6871L-4057A to reference the components, and if you had that and your set worked there would be no need for repair

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                      • Frost3h
                        Member
                        • Mar 2016
                        • 13
                        • Australia

                        #12
                        Re: Panasonic Viera LED TH60CX700A - Sound / Backlights Working - No Picture

                        Originally posted by flocko
                        The only hope you have is to find the correct T.Con . you could have caused damage to the main board or screen drivers by fitting the incorrect board, as this set uses the LG panel with a Panasonic main board the T,Con also acts to interface the two, so you would need a working 6871L-4057A to reference the components, and if you had that and your set worked there would be no need for repair

                        Hey Flocko / diif,

                        Thanks for the advice. I incorrectly assumed because I had the model correct that would have been all I needed. Combination of arrogance and naivety.

                        I've located a replacement tcon with the correct part number and model and its on its way.

                        I'll see if that cap that has dislodged can be reattached but my soldering skills aren't that precise.

                        With any luck I haven't damaged anything irreparably, if I have, this will be an expensive lesson but a lesson all the same.

                        I'll update with what happens when the replacement TCON arrives.

                        Thanks for all the advice and I appreciate the time you all took!

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                        • webpanther
                          New Member
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 3
                          • Canada

                          #13
                          Re: Panasonic Viera LED TH60CX700A - Sound / Backlights Working - No Picture

                          Did you ever solve this?
                          I am looking for the same T-Con board, 6871L-4057A.
                          Cannot find one anywhere on the internet.

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                          • hoangmai
                            New Member
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 4
                            • usa

                            #14
                            Re: Panasonic Viera LED TH60CX700A - Sound / Backlights Working - No Picture

                            Hi webpanther,
                            I found the T-Con board you are looking for on NarayaniTech in India.
                            You can Google that name.
                            Good Luck.

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                            • xaviche
                              New Member
                              • Jan 2020
                              • 1
                              • France

                              #15
                              Re: Panasonic Viera LED TH60CX700A - Sound / Backlights Working - No Picture

                              Hi !
                              Sorry for the up, but I got the same problem on a Panasonic TX-55CX680E.
                              I bought a new t-con card, but the trouble is still there. I checked the fuse on the t-con card, check that the 12V goes out of the motherboard and it's ok.
                              So I'm asking if someone has the answer, especially if Frost3h fix his TV.

                              Thanks all

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Panasonic Viera LED TH60CX700A - Sound / Backlights Working - No Picture

                                Originally posted by xaviche
                                Hi !
                                Sorry for the up, but I got the same problem on a Panasonic TX-55CX680E.
                                I bought a new t-con card, but the trouble is still there. I checked the fuse on the t-con card, check that the 12V goes out of the motherboard and it's ok.
                                So I'm asking if someone has the answer, especially if Frost3h fix his TV.

                                Thanks all
                                https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1484132385
                                So if you only have one cable (white flat cables) between T-CON and the LCD panel connected one at a time, what do you see on the screen?
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • Acerman
                                  Member
                                  • Oct 2016
                                  • 30
                                  • United Kingdom

                                  #17
                                  Re: Panasonic Viera LED TH60CX700A - Sound / Backlights Working - No Picture

                                  I have a very similar problem with a Panasonic TX50DX700b model. I am struggling to find the cause of the blank screen . Audio comes through and you can change channels with the remote but the screen has a blue hue and not even a ‘no signal' message. Backlights are clearly working as you can see them brightly lit at the rear of the panel. I have checked the tcon fuse and the 12 volts is present. I also fitted a working replacement tcon board with no effect. I have changed the main board for a known working one from a donor TV. Still the same.
                                  When I disconnect the right side tcon ribbon (rear panel side up) the opposite side half of the screen goes bright white. When I disconnect the left side tcon ribbon the screen is completely blue just as with both tcon ribbons connected.
                                  My theory is that there is an issue with the right side led driver board. Perhaps a bad smd capacitor. Not sure though. Any help would be appreciated.

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                                  • nomoresonys
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Jan 2013
                                    • 12196
                                    • U.S.

                                    #18
                                    Re: Panasonic Viera LED TH60CX700A - Sound / Backlights Working - No Picture

                                    Check those MLCC caps for low ohms, expect over 100 ohms on those when testing with meter set to 200 ohms.

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                                    • dandan556
                                      New Member
                                      • Jun 2020
                                      • 2
                                      • UK

                                      #19
                                      Re: Panasonic Viera LED TH60CX700A - Sound / Backlights Working - No Picture

                                      Originally posted by Acerman
                                      I have a very similar problem with a Panasonic TX50DX700b model. I am struggling to find the cause of the blank screen . Audio comes through and you can change channels with the remote but the screen has a blue hue and not even a ‘no signal' message. Backlights are clearly working as you can see them brightly lit at the rear of the panel. I have checked the tcon fuse and the 12 volts is present. I also fitted a working replacement tcon board with no effect. I have changed the main board for a known working one from a donor TV. Still the same.
                                      When I disconnect the right side tcon ribbon (rear panel side up) the opposite side half of the screen goes bright white. When I disconnect the left side tcon ribbon the screen is completely blue just as with both tcon ribbons connected.
                                      My theory is that there is an issue with the right side led driver board. Perhaps a bad smd capacitor. Not sure though. Any help would be appreciated.
                                      Hi, found this post via Google, I have the same model TV with the EXACT same issue, did you ever find the cause of this?

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Panasonic Viera LED TH60CX700A - Sound / Backlights Working - No Picture

                                        Originally posted by dandan556
                                        Hi, found this post via Google, I have the same model TV with the EXACT same issue, did you ever find the cause of this?
                                        1) So you get the same result when one cable between T-CON and the LCD panel is connected one at time and you do have 12V at both ends of the T-con fuse, correct?
                                        2) If the above is true then you need to check the resistance of the MLCC on the tab bonding boards as suggested. ACEMAN never posts back what he found.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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