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  • alfredomfr1
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Oct 2014
    • 318
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    #1

    Toshiba 40E200U1 turn ON but no backlight, no video

    Power led turn green, but there is not backlight and can't see video in the dark with a flashlight.

    BL-ON: 5v
    Dim, ACD: 0v
    Power ON: 3.6v
    5v: 5v
    12v and 24v: 0v

    I jumped 5v and Power ON nothing, 5v, Power ON and BL ON nothing, Power ON, ACD, BL ON and 5v nothing

    I changed the MB 2 times, with the original the label toshiba in the plastic bezel light up white but not image or backlight, with the second one, not turning on (i assumed is defective) and with the third one turn on, the label toshiba remain off but no video, no backlight.
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  • dick_barton
    Badcaps Legend
    • Aug 2015
    • 6642
    • Wales

    #2
    Re: Toshiba 40E200U1 turn ON but no backlight, no video

    ACD which I believe is AC detect = 0V so there's problably a fault with the power supply and that is why you don't have 12V and 24V. I suspect that the main board is fine.
    Can you locate a manual for the power supply or provide high quaity pictures of the front and back of it .

    Edit
    Check R101, R102, R103, R104 & R105
    Last edited by dick_barton; 08-28-2016, 04:35 PM.
    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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    • CapLeaker
      Leaking Member
      • Dec 2014
      • 8133
      • Canada

      #3
      Re: Toshiba 40E200U1 turn ON but no backlight, no video

      Jump pson with a 1k resistor to STBY voltage. Do the same with the BLon. Check how much DC V you get on the main filter capacitor. Be careful. Check if the rectifier diodes on the 12V/24V on the secondary are shorted.
      Last edited by CapLeaker; 08-28-2016, 05:07 PM.

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      • alfredomfr1
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Oct 2014
        • 318
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        #4
        Re: Toshiba 40E200U1 turn ON but no backlight, no video

        I have 167v in each main capacitor

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        • CapLeaker
          Leaking Member
          • Dec 2014
          • 8133
          • Canada

          #5
          Re: Toshiba 40E200U1 turn ON but no backlight, no video

          check for VCC on U101. What is printed on U101?

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          • ReeceyBurger123
            Never Give Up !
            • May 2014
            • 7325
            • Britain

            #6
            Re: Toshiba 40E200U1 turn ON but no backlight, no video

            Ahh SSI_400_14A01 inverter-I meant shit. Remove/unplug the inverter and see if the set powers up.
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            • alfredomfr1
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Oct 2014
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              #7
              Re: Toshiba 40E200U1 turn ON but no backlight, no video

              CapLeaker: U1 (can't found U101) is a L6571B see picture
              Pin 1: -5.5v
              ReeseyBurger123: With the inverter disconected same no 12v, no 24v
              Attached Files

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Toshiba 40E200U1 turn ON but no backlight, no video

                Originally posted by alfredomfr1
                CapLeaker: U1 (can't found U101) is a L6571B see picture
                Pin 1: -5.5v
                ReeseyBurger123: With the inverter disconected same no 12v, no 24v
                What did you use for meter GND to get that - 5.5VDC on the Vs PIN 1?
                Is it really Minus 5.5VDC? can't be right.
                Attached Files
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • alfredomfr1
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Oct 2014
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                  #9
                  Re: Toshiba 40E200U1 turn ON but no backlight, no video

                  I did the measure again is something around -9.50v to -10v. Using GND on the board connector and in tv chasis same measure.
                  I did the measure right before send this message and is -4.25v. Crazy !!
                  Note:
                  Multimeter is ok

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                  • Diah
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 6358
                    • Germany

                    #10
                    Re: Toshiba 40E200U1 turn ON but no backlight, no video

                    from yours Photo https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...6&d=1472422224

                    the Audio Dig Red LED turn On, check your remote control , did the set response for it if not then you have firmware issue eeprom etc,

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                    • alfredomfr1
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 318
                      • usa

                      #11
                      Re: Toshiba 40E200U1 turn ON but no backlight, no video

                      The TV turn ON, is just 12v and 24v are not present, with the inverter connector pluged or not same thing. Im thinking is a power board problem and I need some help to repair the power board

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                      • Diah
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 6358
                        • Germany

                        #12
                        Re: Toshiba 40E200U1 turn ON but no backlight, no video

                        you mean when you plug it at wall socket it turn on direct correct ? can you put it in stand by state ? if no then issue as i write before

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                        • alfredomfr1
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                          #13
                          Re: Toshiba 40E200U1 turn ON but no backlight, no video

                          Yes I can turn ON and OFF

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                          • Diah
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 6358
                            • Germany

                            #14
                            Re: Toshiba 40E200U1 turn ON but no backlight, no video

                            good in this case you should have picture on screen by dark room and touch light. also what recovery write if you plug out the inverter while set on and back u should have backlight for awhile

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                            • alfredomfr1
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Oct 2014
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                              #15
                              Re: Toshiba 40E200U1 turn ON but no backlight, no video

                              I didn't see nothing on the screen with a flashlight and will do the plug out test tomorrow but as i write before there is not 12v or 24v

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                              • Diah
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 6358
                                • Germany

                                #16
                                Re: Toshiba 40E200U1 turn ON but no backlight, no video

                                if you have not 12 24 v yours tv will never boot and turn on or off.

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Toshiba 40E200U1 turn ON but no backlight, no video

                                  Originally posted by alfredomfr1
                                  I did the measure again is something around -9.50v to -10v. Using GND on the board connector and in tv chasis same measure.
                                  I did the measure right before send this message and is -4.25v. Crazy !!
                                  Note:
                                  Multimeter is ok
                                  You used the wrong GND, when you make measurement in the HOT side, you need to use the negative leg of the main filter cap as the GND ref for your meter.
                                  BTW, is there wire on the ACD pin? This TOSHIBA good ACD signal LOW = Good, right now you have 0VDC so it is OK.
                                  You do have PS-ON signal to turn on the 12V/24V Switched power supply section.
                                  Last edited by budm; 08-31-2016, 04:05 PM.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • alfredomfr1
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Oct 2014
                                    • 318
                                    • usa

                                    #18
                                    Re: Toshiba 40E200U1 turn ON but no backlight, no video

                                    budm: Using negative leg of the main filter pin 1: -165v
                                    Diah: TV turn on and off perfectly.

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Toshiba 40E200U1 turn ON but no backlight, no video

                                      MINUS 165VDC? It cannot be MINUS reading.
                                      165V is way too high, the clamping Voltage on that pin 1 Vs pin is around 15V.
                                      Are you sure you are measuring at the correct pin, and measure it correctly?
                                      Last edited by budm; 09-01-2016, 11:46 AM.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • alfredomfr1
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Oct 2014
                                        • 318
                                        • usa

                                        #20
                                        Re: Toshiba 40E200U1 turn ON but no backlight, no video

                                        I'm agree with you but that's the reading from pin1, thru pin5 = -165v dc

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