Samsung LN46C610N1F LCD TV no backlight

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  • tech2014
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Aug 2014
    • 807
    • Canada

    #1

    Samsung LN46C610N1F LCD TV no backlight

    I can see video if I shine a flashlight on the screen, but I get no backlight. It doesnt even come on for a second. The fast track manual said to remove connector off main board and the BL should turn on as soon as power is applied. I still get nothing. Here are my voltages off connector CNi802 from the backlight inverter board to the power supply, I get the following voltages:

    CN802-

    Pin 1- VCC 12v=12v
    Pin 2-FB=0V
    Pin 3-FB=0V
    Pin 4 and 5 are GND
    Pin 6 and 7 LD=8.84V

    For PW dimming out on CN802 of p/s, I get 2V and H_out=1.66V

    I tested the PFC voltages and I get 388V on filter cap so PFC is good. I am suspecting the 2 large inverter transformers on the PS or the inverter board is bad.

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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F LCD TV no backlight

    What is the board P/N BN44-XXXXXX? Samsung BN44-00341B? I suspect bad coupling cap, white rectangular cap CI818 0.47uF 450V POLYPROPYLENE in the middle of the board next to the heatsink for the MOSFETs that drive the inverter transformer. Look real close to see if is has bulge on the body.
    BTW, the fuse on the middle of the board is OK?
    Last edited by budm; 05-27-2016, 04:41 PM.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • tech2014
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Aug 2014
      • 807
      • Canada

      #3
      Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F LCD TV no backlight

      Bn44-00341b and fuse is good. I removed the capacitor and tried measuring the capacitance and get no reading, just OL.
      Last edited by tech2014; 05-27-2016, 04:56 PM.

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      • tech2014
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Aug 2014
        • 807
        • Canada

        #4
        Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F LCD TV no backlight

        Does anyone know where I can get this capacitor?

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F LCD TV no backlight

          Showing no capacitance at all?
          It will be PANASONIC POLYPROPYLENE type from DIGIKEY with 630V rating instead of the 450V rating.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • tech2014
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Aug 2014
            • 807
            • Canada

            #6
            Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F LCD TV no backlight

            Originally posted by budm
            Showing no capacitance at all?
            It will be PANASONIC POLYPROPYLENE type from DIGIKEY with 630V rating instead of the 450V rating.
            I can't find this part on digikey. Anyone know? thanks

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            • vinceroger69
              Badcaps Legend
              • Mar 2012
              • 6714
              • uk

              #7
              Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F LCD TV no backlight

              http://ca.mouser.com/Passive-Compone...PYLENE&FS=True

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              • R_J
                Badcaps Legend
                • Jun 2012
                • 9514
                • Canada

                #8
                Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F LCD TV no backlight

                http://www.digikey.ca/product-search...=PCF1574-ND%20

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                • tedjar
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 51
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F LCD TV no backlight

                  Just want to report that this this thread saved another TV...

                  I had a Samsung LN46C630K1FXZA with the same issue. Power on, works normally if you shine a light at the screen, no backlight at all. All electrolytics looked ok. Power supply is the same BN44-00341B. The poly cap was bad, completely open. It even had the little bulge on the side of it. Replaced it with DigiKey P/N: PCF1574-ND - Panasonic / ECW-FA2J474J CAP FILM 0.47UF 5% 630VDC RADIAL and the TV is back to normal.

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung LN46C610N1F LCD TV no backlight

                    Thanks for the report, I wish the OP has done the same.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                    Comment

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