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  • Rickig
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2015
    • 112
    • England

    #1

    Led back light

    Hi I have a back lit led tv that I suspect a led has gone down as the backlight no longer illuminates
    My question is what s a safe voltage to put across each led to test it and when I find it what size resistor would be best to solder in its place to bypass that led.
    Thanks
  • ReeceyBurger123
    Never Give Up !
    • May 2014
    • 7325
    • Britain

    #2
    Re: Led back light

    2.2k ohm resistor or 3w zener diode in reverse bias to bridge over the Led. To check each led you can use your Dmm put the probes on the respective polarity of the Led and if its good it should slightly illuminate.
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    • Rickig
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2015
      • 112
      • England

      #3
      Re: Led back light

      And if it doesn't?

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      • steviewonder
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2013
        • 183
        • england

        #4
        Re: Led back light

        then the LED is duff..a 3v supply to each individual diode should provide illumination.
        Often,the led itself is visually burnt.
        Good luck!

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        • flocko
          Badcaps Legend
          • Nov 2012
          • 1121
          • uk

          #5
          Re: Led back light

          LEDs will be open, short or working, if its short your meter will show this, if it is open it will show that also, and if it glows its working. You fail to tell use the make and model number of the set you are trying to fix? not all LEDs are the same voltage ?

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          • ReeceyBurger123
            Never Give Up !
            • May 2014
            • 7325
            • Britain

            #6
            Re: Led back light

            Originally posted by Rickig
            And if it doesn't?
            Well if it doesn't light what is it ? Dead !
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            • retiredcaps
              Badcaps Legend
              • Apr 2010
              • 9271

              #7
              Re: Led back light

              Originally posted by ReeceyBurger123
              To check each led you can use your Dmm put the probes on the respective polarity of the Led and if its good it should slightly illuminate.
              Be aware that multimeters vary greatly in the output voltage when in diode mode. For example, the Fluke 87V will output more than 7V in diode mode. I have a Brymen meter that only outputs 1.5V in diode mode.
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              • Rickig
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2015
                • 112
                • England

                #8
                Re: Led back light

                That's what I was referring to... What if the meter doesn't output enough voltage to illuminate it. So 3v should be ok?
                Bush bmk40

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Led back light

                  You should put the current limiter resistor in series with the power source when you try to test the LED.
                  http://led.linear1.org/why-do-i-need...r-with-an-led/
                  https://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/219
                  Last edited by budm; 10-14-2015, 10:00 AM.
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                  • ReeceyBurger123
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                    • May 2014
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                    #10
                    Re: Led back light

                    The meter will have enough juice to dimly illuminate the leds.
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                    • stj
                      Great Sage 齊天大聖
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 30963
                      • Albion

                      #11
                      Re: Led back light

                      i test led's with an old coincell from a motherboard - i have lot's of used ones.

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                      • Rickig
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2015
                        • 112
                        • England

                        #12
                        Re: Led back light

                        Ok I will check them all and when I find the bad one I just solder the traitor in its place and it should resume normal function? Minus some brightness of course

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                        • ReeceyBurger123
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                          • May 2014
                          • 7325
                          • Britain

                          #13
                          Re: Led back light

                          It wont be too noticeable the brightness difference and what do you mean by traitor ?
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                          • Rickig
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2015
                            • 112
                            • England

                            #14
                            Re: Led back light

                            The meter didn't power them had to use a battery. Have 6 LEDs out. 8 strips of 5 led and 3 on 2 strips gone. I've removed the bad ones... Any idea where a can get replacements?

                            Spell check -- traitor = resistor

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                            • Rickig
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2015
                              • 112
                              • England

                              #15
                              Re: Led back light

                              http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/3w-high-power-white-led-n79jq

                              Will these do?

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Led back light

                                Originally posted by Rickig
                                That is really big because it is 3W, you need the dimension of the old LED and the solder pads, 1W should be OK to use.
                                What does the one in the panel look like?
                                Last edited by budm; 10-14-2015, 02:09 PM.
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                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
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                                • Rickig
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Mar 2015
                                  • 112
                                  • England

                                  #17
                                  Re: Led back light

                                  http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/white-led-n67jq

                                  These?
                                  My board has 5 LEDs and says vf max 18v so I assume each led is 3.8v Ish?
                                  Says if= 320ma the above is if 350ma. That ok?

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Led back light

                                    Originally posted by Rickig
                                    http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/white-led-n67jq

                                    These?
                                    My board has 5 LEDs and says vf max 18v so I assume each led is 3.8v Ish?
                                    Says if= 320ma the above is if 350ma. That ok?
                                    So the LED strip has all that info printed on it, 18V MAX, If = 320mA? 18V/5 LEDS = 3.6V
                                    So you will be running at lower current which will be fine, I also doubt that they are running them at MAX If.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
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                                    • Rickig
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Mar 2015
                                      • 112
                                      • England

                                      #19
                                      Re: Led back light

                                      Yes says that on it.
                                      Original is if320
                                      The maplins are 350 that OK?

                                      I noticed on maplins page it says heat sink required..... Will I really need that's?
                                      Last edited by Rickig; 10-14-2015, 02:21 PM.

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Led back light

                                        "The maplins are 350 that OK?' yes, you are going to be running at the lower current, but I do not know if it will have color shift at lower current drive or not. The existing strip is probably using the copper pads for heatsink, so if this LED should be able to handle it, we still do not know what your LED strip look like, the original probably does not have good thermal management either so they burn out.
                                        Last edited by budm; 10-14-2015, 02:27 PM.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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