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  • Rickig
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2015
    • 112
    • England

    #21
    Re: 37lg7000 sound. No picture but backlight on.

    Vgl -8v
    Vgh 24v

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    • Hamie
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      • Apr 2014
      • 1383
      • UK

      #22
      Re: 37lg7000 sound. No picture but backlight on.

      invalid, deleted.
      Last edited by Hamie; 10-03-2015, 01:22 PM.

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      • Rickig
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2015
        • 112
        • England

        #23
        Re: 37lg7000 sound. No picture but backlight on.

        Just done that. the readings are as above

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        • Hamie
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          • Apr 2014
          • 1383
          • UK

          #24
          Re: 37lg7000 sound. No picture but backlight on.

          Ok so far the voltages appear accurate.

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          • Rickig
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2015
            • 112
            • England

            #25
            Re: 37lg7000 sound. No picture but backlight on.

            So what's the verdict? Does that mean tcon good?

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            • Hamie
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              • Apr 2014
              • 1383
              • UK

              #26
              Re: 37lg7000 sound. No picture but backlight on.

              Finally check the gamma test points.

              Located here, and also to the left (the ones under the white line you were testing previously.)


              22 in total, post back results like:

              V1-
              V2-
              V3-

              Etc

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              • Rickig
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2015
                • 112
                • England

                #27
                Re: 37lg7000 sound. No picture but backlight on.

                V1 16.5v
                V2 16.2 v
                V3 14.4v
                V4 13.6v
                V5 5mv
                V6 12.6v
                V7 23mv
                V8 11.5v
                V9 10.7v
                V10 8.7v
                V11 8.7v
                V12 8.3v
                V13 8.3v
                V14 6.3v
                V15 5.5v
                V16 27mv
                V17 4.3v
                V18 27mv
                V19 3.2v
                V20 2.5v
                V21 0.6v
                V22 284mv

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                • vinceroger69
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                  • Mar 2012
                  • 6714
                  • uk

                  #28
                  Re: 37lg7000 sound. No picture but backlight on.

                  thers some odd readings there never saw any mv before

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                  • Hamie
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                    • Apr 2014
                    • 1383
                    • UK

                    #29
                    Re: 37lg7000 sound. No picture but backlight on.

                    V10 - V13 don't look right either.

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                    • Rickig
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 112
                      • England

                      #30
                      Re: 37lg7000 sound. No picture but backlight on.

                      Def mv.
                      So what's the next move?

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                      • vinceroger69
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                        • Mar 2012
                        • 6714
                        • uk

                        #31
                        Re: 37lg7000 sound. No picture but backlight on.

                        some maybe mv im still learning myself but have never saw any threads with mv in the gamma readings im sure someone will comfirm later maybe tom or budm will have a idea if hamie isnt sure?

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                        • Hamie
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                          • Apr 2014
                          • 1383
                          • UK

                          #32
                          Re: 37lg7000 sound. No picture but backlight on.

                          In my experience the voltages should drop gradually.
                          So if those readings are correct you have have a faulty t-con.

                          Going by the fact I can't seem to find anyone selling one would usually suggest that this board has quite a high failure rate.

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                          • Rickig
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2015
                            • 112
                            • England

                            #33
                            Re: 37lg7000 sound. No picture but backlight on.

                            Double checked all mv ones and they are all in the mv range. So shall I be looking for a tcon?

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                            • vinceroger69
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                              • Mar 2012
                              • 6714
                              • uk

                              #34
                              Re: 37lg7000 sound. No picture but backlight on.

                              If this was my set the tcon is usually the cheapest of the boards so yes i would probably change it. Make sure you get one with a returns policy just incase its faulty already failing that you may have to look for a smashed screen working set and use the boards from that.

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                              • CapLeaker
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                                • Dec 2014
                                • 8132
                                • Canada

                                #35
                                Re: 37lg7000 sound. No picture but backlight on.

                                Not really sure what to say. Gamma readings are there, also they are bad, but that shouldn't cause a no picture, bad gamma just causes a bad solarized pic. Would be nice checking the lvds cables in and out of the Tcon..

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                                • Rickig
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Mar 2015
                                  • 112
                                  • England

                                  #36
                                  Re: 37lg7000 sound. No picture but backlight on.

                                  So if the readings are good and screen is blank can I assume the main isn't sending any graphics out?

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                                  • CapLeaker
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                                    • Dec 2014
                                    • 8132
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                                    #37
                                    Re: 37lg7000 sound. No picture but backlight on.

                                    The gamma readings aren't good, but they are there. That shouldn't cause a black screen. Yes and no, that's why I suggested to use the oscilloscope on the LVDS first place. That's the only 100% way I know how to check a main or Tcon for video. I usually don't bother checking the gamma unless I have trouble with the gamma. More important to have video on the screen first place.
                                    Last idea I have is that you check each lvds output on the main and the Tcon. You would have to measure each LVDS channel pair for 350mV with your DMM. So far you still don't know yet, if you actually have any video coming from the main board or not.

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                                    • Rickig
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Mar 2015
                                      • 112
                                      • England

                                      #38
                                      Re: 37lg7000 sound. No picture but backlight on.

                                      Hmm. Think I'll order a tcon and try.

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                                      • vinceroger69
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                                        • Mar 2012
                                        • 6714
                                        • uk

                                        #39
                                        Re: 37lg7000 sound. No picture but backlight on.

                                        Quote ! Last idea I have is that you check each lvds output on the main and the Tcon. You would have to measure each LVDS channel pair for 350mV with your DMM. So far you still don't know yet, if you actually have any video coming from the main board or not.
                                        capleaker is this easy to do and easy to find the channel pairs? do you just test across the pairs?

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                                        • Hamie
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                                          • Apr 2014
                                          • 1383
                                          • UK

                                          #40
                                          Re: 37lg7000 sound. No picture but backlight on.

                                          Bad gamma can cause many faults.
                                          Solarisation being one of them.
                                          Image to dark, image too light etc.

                                          I had one fairly recently where the image started off a bit dark then faded out to to completely black.

                                          Therefore with gamma voltages as bad as the ops I'd be surprised if it wasn't caused by the tcon.

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