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  • Mikeyboy2007
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Mar 2013
    • 745
    • Scotland

    #1

    No Picture Samsung LED TV

    Hi guys paid £15 for a 40" Samsung series 5 LED tv, model number : UE40D5000, The PSU that is in the tv is BN44-00422B Rev1.3 and AV Board is BN41-01661.

    the tv powers on etc just get no picture / menu / input etc.

    i have tested the voltages and are stated below if anyone can give me an idea on how to resolve this issue as not worked on many LED tvs yet.

    from PSU to backlights i get 133.2v, 133.2v, 60.6v and GND.

    on PSU to Main/AV board i get

    1--12.69
    2--0.19
    3--12.69
    4--0v
    5--12.69v
    6--4.74v
    7--12.69v
    8--0v
    9--0v
    10-0v
    11-5.33v
    12-5.33v
    13-5.33v
    14-3.58v
  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #2
    Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

    You didn't say if the backlight works or not.

    No backlight = probably bad LEDs or LED driver or connection
    No picture = 90% of the time it's the LCD panel that's bad on these
    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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    • Mikeyboy2007
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Mar 2013
      • 745
      • Scotland

      #3
      Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

      still get a backlight... is there any further testing i can do to determine if bad panel ?

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      • CapLeaker
        Leaking Member
        • Dec 2014
        • 8146
        • Canada

        #4
        Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

        First check the T-con board if it has any power, then look at the LVDS signal from the main board on a oscilloscope. Just flick the menu on and off on the TV and you should see a difference on the oscilloscope.

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        • flocko
          Badcaps Legend
          • Nov 2012
          • 1121
          • uk

          #5
          Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

          Does it use the RUNTK5351TP T-con these are failing on this and other models big time and not cheap to replace, backlight on with sound but no picture Flocko

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          • Mikeyboy2007
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Mar 2013
            • 745
            • Scotland

            #6
            Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

            Originally posted by CapLeaker
            First check the T-con board if it has any power, then look at the LVDS signal from the main board on a oscilloscope. Just flick the menu on and off on the TV and you should see a difference on the oscilloscope.
            how can i check the T-Con for power ? and also i cant check with oscilloscope as havnt got one

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            • tom66
              EVs Rule
              • Apr 2011
              • 32560
              • UK

              #7
              Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

              You can check at the fuse...
              and consider investing in a basic analog scope, they are available on eBay for sometimes less than £50
              (do not get a USB or "toy" LCD scope, they're useless; pick up an old, big, heavy CRT scope with 20MHz or more bandwidth and you can test a lot of things)
              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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              • Mikeyboy2007
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Mar 2013
                • 745
                • Scotland

                #8
                Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                Originally posted by flocko
                Does it use the RUNTK5351TP T-con these are failing on this and other models big time and not cheap to replace, backlight on with sound but no picture Flocko
                the Tcon board is BN41-01678 and it says model is S100FAPC2LV0.3 if thats any use ??

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                • tom66
                  EVs Rule
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 32560
                  • UK

                  #9
                  Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                  That's a samsung T-con.
                  RUNTK.... is Sharp's prefix for LCD TV bits.
                  I know some Sharp panels are having no picture failures.

                  You can try disconnecting one of the t-con ribbons and see if you get half a picture, if so that confirms the panel is bad (try both ribbons)

                  And pictures! Pictures!!!
                  Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
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                  • Mikeyboy2007
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 745
                    • Scotland

                    #10
                    Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                    Tom, I tried disconnecting each ribbon and still the same no picture. do i test the voltages on the point i have circled in red ?? and also where is the fuse on this board ?
                    Attached Files

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                      Green fuse with label 125V/ 3A printed on the board, someone may have replaced the SMD with PICO fuse.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • Mikeyboy2007
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 745
                        • Scotland

                        #12
                        Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                        do i just test it as if im testing a regular fuse ? should i test the voltage points next to the fuse also ?

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                        • newtothis
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 1556
                          • england

                          #13
                          Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                          Just check voltage at either side of the fuse

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                          • Mikeyboy2007
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 745
                            • Scotland

                            #14
                            Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                            measured voltage on fuse and got 12.65v in and 0.03v out
                            Attached Files

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                            • Alastair E
                              Chief Womble
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 1963
                              • U.K.

                              #15
                              Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                              Originally posted by Mikeyboy2007
                              measured voltage on fuse and got 12.65v in and 0.03v out
                              Come on Mikey!

                              IF there's 12v one end of fuse and nothing the other--

                              WHAT Does THAT mean! You been doing these long enough now to Know the answer!!
                              TELEFIX

                              How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
                              http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
                              PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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                              • Mikeyboy2007
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 745
                                • Scotland

                                #16
                                Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                                yeah i know Alaistar E, what should i replace this with though ? i guess someones tried to repair beforehand and put in the wrong fuse ?

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                                • Mikeyboy2007
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Mar 2013
                                  • 745
                                  • Scotland

                                  #17
                                  Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                                  would this do ??

                                  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FUSE-3A-12...item43cbb1604f

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                                  • Alastair E
                                    Chief Womble
                                    • Mar 2013
                                    • 1963
                                    • U.K.

                                    #18
                                    Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                                    Does it look as though its been out?

                                    The rating of it should be on the board. You can tack some wires to a conventional fuse of the right rating and tack that across the original as a test.....
                                    TELEFIX

                                    How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
                                    http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
                                    PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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                                    • Alastair E
                                      Chief Womble
                                      • Mar 2013
                                      • 1963
                                      • U.K.

                                      #19
                                      Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                                      As to that ebay fuse--I ve no idea--Whats the ratings of the original--As should be marked on either it--Or the board....
                                      TELEFIX

                                      How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
                                      http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
                                      PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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                                      • Mikeyboy2007
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Mar 2013
                                        • 745
                                        • Scotland

                                        #20
                                        Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                                        will try that, maybe a bit of speaker wire ?? board says 125v 3A which is why i was thinking this would be suitable ?

                                        http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FUSE-3A-12...item43cbb1604f

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