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  • ljintexas
    LJinTexas
    • Jan 2015
    • 669
    • USA

    #1

    Vizio E472VL

    Totally devoid of lights or life. Friend stated that during a storm, both TVs went out. Satellite provider had to replace complete dish and both receivers. Nothing else in the house was affected. Not computers that were running nor appliances.
    All visible fuses and MOV check good. Possibly lightning? Coax is properly grounded and was not just done recently..#10 AWG solid copper bonded to telco ground rod.
    Disconnected cable to main board. I have 5 volts dc at all three pins on PS, but no 12 volts. Grnds have continuity to ground. No visible damage to front or back side of SMPS. Have not removed main board to look at back side.

    Help!

    Thanks
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    Last edited by ljintexas; 03-24-2015, 03:44 AM.
  • paulstef
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Dec 2013
    • 724
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: Vizio E472VL

    Are fuses on mainboard (right next to the connector) ok too?

    The 12V are probably switched on when the TV is turned on. . Do you have a standby light? Does it change when trying to turn the TV on? What are the voltages on the connector going from PSU to mainboard? Specifically the PS_ON, BL (or similar) signals.

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    • ljintexas
      LJinTexas
      • Jan 2015
      • 669
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Vizio E472VL

      Will look again but did not see any lights, report back tonight.Will check voltages with cable connected

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      • ljintexas
        LJinTexas
        • Jan 2015
        • 669
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Vizio E472VL

        No standby light..No sign of a light..not the VISIO or any light for that matter. Yes all fuses are good. with main boards connected, no voltage on anything except 5 volt pins..they drop down to .2 volts..and stay there even when main board is disconnected..cycle power with disconnected and 5 volts comes back. I am sure main board is toast, but wish I knew is PS was supposed to generate 12 volts in standby.
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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Vizio E472VL

          12V will not be present until the main board sends out the PS-ON signal top the PS-ON pin on the power supply board.
          Report each pin names and Voltage reading when TV is off and when power switch is activated.
          I.E.
          Pin 1 xxxx, TV OFF= ????VDC, TV ON = ???? VDC
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • ljintexas
            LJinTexas
            • Jan 2015
            • 669
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Vizio E472VL

            Listed measured voltages on 14 pin connector for cable from smps to main board. The first number is 120v plugged in no main cable on smps. Second number is plugged in with cable plugged into smps and mainboard. Last number is same but turned on via on/off switch..last column is how they are labeled.

            pin 1 5.2v .459v .368v +5V
            pin 2 5.2 .462 .371 +5V
            pin 3 5.1 .465 .385 +5V
            pin 4 0 0 0 GND
            pin 5 0 0 0 GND
            pin 6 0 0 0 GND
            pin 7 0 0 0 GND
            pin 8 0 0 0 12V
            pin 9 0 0 0 12V
            pin 10 0 .02 0 12V
            pin 11 0 .06 0 Standby
            pin 12 0 0 0 ON/OFF
            pin 13 0 0 0 Status
            pin 14 0 0 0 DIM

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Vizio E472VL

              OK, the +5V (Standby Voltage) is basically dead, without it, the TV will not do anything.
              So you need to find out why it is dead, it will involve check Voltages on the HOT (DEADLY side) of the power supply board.
              More likely the main board may also be damaged since the St box connected to the TV input was also damaged.
              Right now you can try disconnecting that cable going to the main board and see if you will get +5V back, it may be loading down by the bad main board.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • ljintexas
                LJinTexas
                • Jan 2015
                • 669
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Vizio E472VL

                The 5 volts will come back if I disconnect the main board and cycle power.

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Vizio E472VL

                  Originally posted by ljintexas
                  The 5 volts will come back if I disconnect the main board and cycle power.
                  OK, put the connector back in place and then check the resistance beteween the +5V pin and the chassis to see if it shows very low resistance.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • ljintexas
                    LJinTexas
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 669
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Vizio E472VL

                    With power off, correct?

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Vizio E472VL

                      Originally posted by ljintexas
                      With power off, correct?
                      Power cord removed from the AC outlet and wait for about 5 minutes to let the main cap discharged.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • ljintexas
                        LJinTexas
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 669
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Vizio E472VL

                        all three +5V pins show 1.45 Meg ohms to chassis after 5 min of separation from 120 volts.

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                        • ljintexas
                          LJinTexas
                          • Jan 2015
                          • 669
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Vizio E472VL

                          I would have thought +5v pins to chassis would have shown low resistance..let me do some more poking around with meter. Is there a way to supply 5 v to smps to see if it comes up and possibly test outputs?

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Vizio E472VL

                            The over current draw problem can be from the load connected after the regulator or after switching device that has to be turned on after 5v is applied.
                            The +5V is the standby power supply that is present the minute you plug the TV power cord into the wall outlet, you can test the +5V using resistor dummy load,
                            5 Ohms will draw 1A (5Watt), 10 Ohms will draw 0.50A (2.5W) so you can try 10 Ohms first to see if it can handle 0.50A.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • johnp1214
                              Member
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 21
                              • United States

                              #15
                              Re: Vizio E472VL

                              I have a vizio E422vl that powers on and off manually. But screen is pure white with mainly black and some colored vertical lines. Apparently it was struck by lightning I received free from friend in hopes of fixing it. Any ideas ?
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                              • ljintexas
                                LJinTexas
                                • Jan 2015
                                • 669
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Vizio E472VL

                                The issue was the main board. Replaced and up and running like a new one.

                                Thanks for your help.

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                                • newtothis
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Mar 2013
                                  • 1556
                                  • england

                                  #17
                                  Re: Vizio E472VL

                                  Cheers for the update

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