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  • jose6326
    Badcaps Veteran
    • May 2013
    • 707
    • USA

    #1

    Lg 50pg20

    I forgot the issues with this tv

    So I just removed the back cover

    Found a few blown caps on the psu and the ysus board
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  • jose6326
    Badcaps Veteran
    • May 2013
    • 707
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Lg 50pg20

    Here is a closer view of the blown caps

    I haven't tested any voltages because of the blown caps.

    Or should I?

    What other caps should I replace?
    Or should I just replace the faulty ones?

    Thanks
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    • MagicSmoke
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Feb 2011
      • 275
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Lg 50pg20

      I would change all that are under 100v. It's good insurance that you wont have to open it up again in the near future.

      But be aware that the bad ones can cause other parts to fail also. So far I have been lucky on the PSU's that I recapped.


      Same on the X & Y replace all under 100v. All of them have the same hours even though they may not have the same stress on them.

      Test PSU first after recap to make sure all of the voltages out are to spec.
      Last edited by MagicSmoke; 01-16-2015, 07:52 PM.

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      • jose6326
        Badcaps Veteran
        • May 2013
        • 707
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Lg 50pg20

        Thanks will do

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        • jose6326
          Badcaps Veteran
          • May 2013
          • 707
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Lg 50pg20

          Ok so I changed the caps

          I plugged in the tv and I get a red standby light
          There is also a red led on the main board

          So I turned on the tv with the remote and the red standby light turned blue
          The red led on the main board turned amber
          The green led on the logic board turned on and the relay on the psu clicked once

          I can hear some static from the speakers as I raise the volume with the remote it gets louder

          But I dont have any image on the screen its black

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          • jose6326
            Badcaps Veteran
            • May 2013
            • 707
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Lg 50pg20

            Here are the voltages

            Vsc on the ysus board .382v

            Vzb on the zsus board 96v

            I could not find the test point for Vs or Va

            So I tested at 2 locations

            First was on the ysus board (see pic)
            Va 65.3v
            Vs 192.4v

            Second point was at the connector on the psu going to ysus
            Vs 192.4v
            Va 65.3
            Connector going to zsus from psu
            Va 65.4v
            Vs 192.3v
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            • jose6326
              Badcaps Veteran
              • May 2013
              • 707
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Lg 50pg20

              After doing some searching I see that theses sets have bad ysus boards and possible faulty buffer boards as well

              https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ghlight=50pg20

              I did find a blown surface mount fuse on the ysus board below one of the caps I replaced

              Should I bother replacing it?
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              • sugar_ray
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 121
                • Canada

                #8
                Re: Lg 50pg20

                I have this exact set Jose doing the exact same as yours!! Powers on, static can be heard just no pic!! Been on the look out for a new Y board and buffer set. Found lots but all waaaaaaay over priced in my opinion for an out dated tv that only pumps out 720p resolution!!

                Still holding out hope if finding a decent price board but may have to just bite the bullit on this one!! Y boards are tough to repair at the component level. Best bet is to find a good working board

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                • jose6326
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • May 2013
                  • 707
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Lg 50pg20

                  yes these boards are way over priced

                  on another post I read that sometimes the buffer boards are faulty and not the the ysus

                  hopefully someone can suggest what components to test on the ysus to figure what is defective
                  I rather replace a component like a mosfet than the whole board

                  today I am going to replace the fuse and remove the top buffer board to see if I get any weird colors on the screen

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                  • rccrasher65
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 619
                    • United States

                    #10
                    Re: Lg 50pg20

                    Jose6326, Unfortunately those boards I had were sold, sorry. Be extremely careful when removing buffer board, ribbon cables are extremely delicate. Best of luck on your repair.

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                    • rccrasher65
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 619
                      • United States

                      #11
                      Re: Lg 50pg20

                      Originally posted by jose6326
                      After doing some searching I see that theses sets have bad ysus boards and possible faulty buffer boards as well

                      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ghlight=50pg20

                      I did find a blown surface mount fuse on the ysus board below one of the caps I replaced

                      Should I bother replacing it?
                      yes

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                      • jose6326
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • May 2013
                        • 707
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Lg 50pg20

                        Originally posted by rccrasher65
                        Jose6326, Unfortunately those boards I had were sold, sorry. Be extremely careful when removing buffer board, ribbon cables are extremely delicate. Best of luck on your repair.
                        you are correct they are delicate

                        when I removed the ysus and buffer boards together I had the hardest time pulling the ribbon cables out

                        I was so paranoid I was going to tear one, luckily I didn't

                        putting them back in was kind of a pain as well because they kind of have to snap in and pushing them in I almost bent them.

                        RC I am going to remove the buffer boards just like you did hopefully that will tell me if only have to replace that or the ysus as well

                        thanks

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                        • jose6326
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • May 2013
                          • 707
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Lg 50pg20

                          Ok so I replaced the fuse from another defective board

                          I removed the top buffer board and powered the tv on

                          I get a black top screen and a grey bottom screen

                          Does that mean the top buffer board is bad?
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                          • jose6326
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • May 2013
                            • 707
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Lg 50pg20

                            I was reading on another thread that if a fuse is blown on the ysus an ipm failed

                            Tom66
                            A common fault is for the fuse on the Y-sustain to blow. Most often it blows when one of the IPMs on the Y-sustain fail. These IPMs can be difficult to replace, but the board will certainly cost less than $560!! And it will take less than a half-hour to replace it.
                            Which fuse would tell me if an ipm failed?

                            There are 6 surface mount fuses and 1 socket mount fuse

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                            • jose6326
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • May 2013
                              • 707
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Lg 50pg20

                              The fuses in the green tested fine

                              The fuse in the red is the one that blew and I replaced
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                              • jose6326
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • May 2013
                                • 707
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Lg 50pg20

                                I am confused

                                I removed the bottom buffer board and put back the upper

                                Now I get a top screen image and bottom black screen

                                Which board is defective? Or is the ysus board defective?

                                Please help

                                Thanks
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                                • rccrasher65
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Mar 2014
                                  • 619
                                  • United States

                                  #17
                                  Re: Lg 50pg20

                                  Looks like y sus is good, and lower buffer is bad.

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                                  • sugar_ray
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Dec 2012
                                    • 121
                                    • Canada

                                    #18
                                    Re: Lg 50pg20

                                    You've come along way my friend!! You went from no picture to half!! In the right track for sure!! Your "upper" buffer is working just fine!! Your Y sustain board is priming just fine as well. That only leaves your lower buffer board. Have you tried re-seating the LVD cable on the lower buffer?? If not, a replacement lower buffer may be in order. They won't cost much

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                                    • jose6326
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • May 2013
                                      • 707
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Lg 50pg20

                                      Thanks for the help guys

                                      I want to make sure I order the right part

                                      I figured it would be the lower buffer board

                                      I will reinstall the bottom buffer and hopefully its just the ribbon cables were not seated properly

                                      If not I wilk order the lower buffer

                                      Thanks again

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                                      • jose6326
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • May 2013
                                        • 707
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Lg 50pg20

                                        Sugar ray thanks for the suggestion
                                        I probably would have just ordered a new board

                                        I got a full clear picture

                                        Thanks for the help everyone

                                        Another tv saved from the landfill

                                        Before I put everything back together
                                        Should I test any other voltages?

                                        Should I program some display settings?
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