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  • s_henya
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jan 2011
    • 480
    • Israel

    #1

    LG 32LC2R-CJ No Backlight

    Hey friends,

    I need your help on this one,

    The TV powers on, but got no backlight and had strong hissing noise.

    Replaced almost all of the caps on the PSU.
    Hissing noise stopped :-), but still got no backlight.

    TV remote is working, i didn't check for sound but im pretty sure it's working.

    Checked Inverterboard, the white rubber spacers melted down, all the inverted was full of with goo (front and back!).

    Tried my best to clean it with alcohol, tested the 8 220uf caps, all were good (capacitance and ESR), all smd fuses were good.

    Plugged in and tested it in the dark:

    As soon as it powers on i can see that i have backlight for a sec then powers off again.

    I tested voltages and i can see 25vdc going from the psu to the inverter.

    I think it goes to protection mode as bulbs or transforms are bad... or maybe i have another fault with the psu...
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    Last edited by s_henya; 01-08-2015, 04:57 AM.
  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: LG 32LC2R-CJ No Backlight

    The resistance testing on the secondary side of the inverter transformers are good?
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • s_henya
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Jan 2011
      • 480
      • Israel

      #3
      Re: LG 32LC2R-CJ No Backlight

      Hi budm,

      I wanted to test the transformers, but i dont have a lopt ring tester.

      some resistance testing refrence would be much appriciated!

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      • selldoor
        Slow Learner
        • Dec 2010
        • 7870

        #4
        Re: LG 32LC2R-CJ No Backlight

        What are the part numbers on the gray oblong transformers on the inverter board
        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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        • s_henya
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Jan 2011
          • 480
          • Israel

          #5
          Re: LG 32LC2R-CJ No Backlight

          i will report the numbers and add a better picture
          as soon as i get home...

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          • s_henya
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Jan 2011
            • 480
            • Israel

            #6
            Re: LG 32LC2R-CJ No Backlight

            As requested another picture of the inverter, it's model and
            the transformer: 4004L644 300(GP)

            i never checked for transformer resistance, so guidance would be nice,
            identifying the primary and secondary winidings...

            normal resistance for each coil, and testing it in or out the circuit.
            Attached Files

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            • vinceroger69
              Badcaps Legend
              • Mar 2012
              • 6714
              • uk

              #7
              Re: LG 32LC2R-CJ No Backlight

              this may help you identify pins etc
              http://www.lcdparts.net/TransformerD...ProductID=3182

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              • s_henya
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Jan 2011
                • 480
                • Israel

                #8
                Re: LG 32LC2R-CJ No Backlight

                thank you vince very helpful link!

                just to clarify i will test resistance between pins s1-s2 p1-p2..

                and so on?

                stupid question but should i test in in or out of the circuit?

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                • vinceroger69
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 6714
                  • uk

                  #9
                  Re: LG 32LC2R-CJ No Backlight

                  I test in circuit (tv off) then if i find a bad one remove and test again. I persume yes you test as you as you say above im sure some one will advise if diffrent. Take the readings for now write down each one per transformer see if any read diffrent.

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                  • s_henya
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 480
                    • Israel

                    #10
                    Re: LG 32LC2R-CJ No Backlight

                    thank you very much!

                    i will post the results tomorrow when i get home...

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                    • selldoor
                      Slow Learner
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 7870

                      #11
                      Re: LG 32LC2R-CJ No Backlight

                      Ok - NO power to the board set your meter on ohms 2000 and just test
                      S1 to S2 and S3 to S4 on each transformer the link vince gave shows
                      what you should get - better list them all.
                      EDIT
                      Test them on the board any that look odd we will tell you to remove and test again
                      off the board
                      Last edited by selldoor; 01-09-2015, 08:52 AM.
                      Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                      • s_henya
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 480
                        • Israel

                        #12
                        Re: LG 32LC2R-CJ No Backlight

                        OK found one bad transformer:
                        secondary on one side got 70kohms instead of 1.4kohm
                        primary was fine 0.6ohm

                        verifyed out of the board too.

                        so i need to serch for a replacement.

                        found some on ebay and aliexpress for about 15$ but i hate ordering and wating about a month for parts.

                        i will search in the local shops although the odds are very low...

                        i will update as soon as i can get a replacement.

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                        • s_henya
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 480
                          • Israel

                          #13
                          Re: LG 32LC2R-CJ No Backlight

                          So...

                          I replaced the transformer, and got progress! i got a picture.

                          the problem is, i can hear some noises, and after some very quick tests no more than 5-10 seconds each.

                          i didn't get a picture everytime.

                          im afraid that i still have some unresolved issues to deal with the psu/inverter.

                          any more guidance?

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                          • s_henya
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 480
                            • Israel

                            #14
                            Re: LG 32LC2R-CJ No Backlight

                            The hissing is coming out of the inverter or CCFL's

                            In order to test the bulbs, i ordered this CCFL tester,
                            http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6515156861.html

                            As soon as i get it i will update the results..

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                            • vinceroger69
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 6714
                              • uk

                              #15
                              Re: LG 32LC2R-CJ No Backlight

                              Did you test the new transformer before you fitted it? ive had a brand new one faulty!

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                              • s_henya
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 480
                                • Israel

                                #16
                                Re: LG 32LC2R-CJ No Backlight

                                The transformer seemed as it was taken out of an inverter (used)
                                i tested the resistance as i did before and it was good.

                                i really don't know why i still have issues as everything looks good.

                                that's why i ordered the tester in order to eliminate CCFL faults.

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                                • vinceroger69
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Mar 2012
                                  • 6714
                                  • uk

                                  #17
                                  Re: LG 32LC2R-CJ No Backlight

                                  Hissing does sound like a bad ccfl wiring or mounting point its just which one theres a few in these sets if i remember.

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                                  • s_henya
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Jan 2011
                                    • 480
                                    • Israel

                                    #18
                                    Re: LG 32LC2R-CJ No Backlight

                                    Finally had some time to do some more testing..

                                    Soldeired all the inverter transformers again.

                                    Cleaned some more of the inverter pcb,

                                    Finally found i had a problem with one of the ccfl sockets on the inverter.

                                    Fixed it.

                                    NOW THE TV IS WORKING AGAIN!
                                    Last edited by s_henya; 03-12-2015, 05:43 AM.

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: LG 32LC2R-CJ No Backlight

                                      Thanks for the follow-up.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                      Comment

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