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  • triplefour
    Badcaps Legend
    • May 2014
    • 1747
    • USA

    #41
    Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

    do the readings you got on the fuses match the readings you get when u just touch the probes together? if so, then your fuses are fine.
    Don't fear the repair...

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    • GR3Y5H3ART
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 146

      #42
      Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

      pretty close

      Ohm multimeter set to: 2m
      -.015

      Ohm multimeter set to: 200k
      -01.5

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      • GR3Y5H3ART
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 146

        #43
        Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

        maybe i should remeasure the readings w/the Fluke multimeter since my first one had some funky readings due to it always resting at like -4 instead of at 0

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        • triplefour
          Badcaps Legend
          • May 2014
          • 1747
          • USA

          #44
          Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

          couldnt hurt. on my meter, the resistance of the probes touching each other is 0.3 oms so if i get .4 or .5 i consider that a good fuse...not sure how much resistance is ok tho
          Don't fear the repair...

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          • GR3Y5H3ART
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 146

            #45
            Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

            measured with the Fluke:

            1
            Left Pin
            1.27

            Right Pin
            3.28
            1.28
            .028

            2
            L
            1.50

            R
            3.28
            1.50
            0

            3
            L
            3.28

            R
            5.13
            3.28
            2.03

            4
            L
            3.27

            R
            5.15
            3.27
            2.02

            5
            L
            2.26

            R
            5.16
            2.26
            1.39

            so 1 & 2 seem the same and 3 % 4 seem the same

            is 5 bad?

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            • triplefour
              Badcaps Legend
              • May 2014
              • 1747
              • USA

              #46
              Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

              sorry im totally lost as to what you are measuring. it helps to label things ohms or volts.. and um... explain yourself better? or maybe its late and this will all make sense in the morning
              Don't fear the repair...

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              • GR3Y5H3ART
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 146

                #47
                Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                Originally posted by triplefour
                sorry im totally lost as to what you are measuring. it helps to label things ohms or volts.. and um... explain yourself better? or maybe its late and this will all make sense in the morning
                volts

                the readings for voltage regulator #1 and #2 are about the same numbers, same thing for #3 and #4.

                #5 having different numbers than #1 - #4
                Last edited by GR3Y5H3ART; 10-22-2014, 12:17 PM.

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                • keeney123
                  Lauren
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 2536
                  • United States

                  #48
                  Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                  You should not get a neg reading on the ohms setting. So to measure the fuse you need to set your meter to ohms on the lowest setting. That would be the setting closest to 0 ohms. Most likely 200 ohm setting. Or if your meter has auto-adjust it will do it for you. Then you make sure TV is unplugged. You take one probe and place it on one side of the fuse and the other probe place of the other side of fuse. The fuse should typically measure under 1 ohm.

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                  • GR3Y5H3ART
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 146

                    #49
                    Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                    remeasured and fluke beeped and went to 0 indicating both fuses are good

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                    • GR3Y5H3ART
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 146

                      #50
                      Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                      should i replace voltage regulator #5?
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                      Last edited by GR3Y5H3ART; 10-22-2014, 04:45 PM.

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #51
                        Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                        #1 : OK, 1.25vRef +.028 =1.278
                        3.28
                        1.28
                        .028

                        #2: 1.5V FIXED Regulator?, need to verify P/N
                        3.28
                        1.50
                        0

                        #3: OK, 1.25Vref + 2.03 = 3.28
                        5.13
                        3.28
                        2.03

                        #4: OK, 1.25V ref + 2.02 = 3.27
                        5.15
                        3.27
                        2.02

                        #5: BAD, 1.25Vref + 1.39 = 2.64, you are getting 2.26.
                        5.16
                        2.26
                        1.39
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

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                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
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                        • triplefour
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • May 2014
                          • 1747
                          • USA

                          #52
                          Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                          oh yeah. voltage regulators. well it would have helped to add those 2 words in there
                          Don't fear the repair...

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                          • keeney123
                            Lauren
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 2536
                            • United States

                            #53
                            Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                            I believe he said in the 10th post it was
                            K1117S15
                            726
                            is that not a good number?

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #54
                              Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                              I did not read all the lost, it is over 50 now. So it is 1.5V fixed regulator and it is OK.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • keeney123
                                Lauren
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 2536
                                • United States

                                #55
                                Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                                Now it that a bad regulator of a bad capacitor attached to the regulator? Will a ac voltage reading give a reading of ripple?

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                                • GR3Y5H3ART
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Jan 2011
                                  • 146

                                  #56
                                  Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                                  Originally posted by budm
                                  #5: BAD, 1.25Vref + 1.39 = 2.64, you are getting 2.26.
                                  5.16
                                  2.26
                                  1.39

                                  good news in a sense?

                                  will report back when the replacement is installed

                                  should i grab readings for any of the caps around #5 voltage regulator

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                                  • triplefour
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • May 2014
                                    • 1747
                                    • USA

                                    #57
                                    Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                                    the #5 regulator looks like its getting its 5v just fine, its just broken so its not outputting the correct voltage. i dont think bad capacitors around there would cause this. you cant test much on caps beyond voltage and shorts with a simple meter. you cant test capacitors ESR without taking them out of circuit and having a meter that does that. id say just replace that regulator and see if it doesnt fix things
                                    Don't fear the repair...

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                                    • keeney123
                                      Lauren
                                      • Sep 2014
                                      • 2536
                                      • United States

                                      #58
                                      Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                                      Or you could switch the meter to read AC volts that is if you have a millivolt setting on the meter for AC volts. Then measure the second pin on regulator number 5. I do not know the tolerance of the AC ripply for this regulator, but if it is over one percent of the reading I would suspect a capacitor. So one percent of the correct dc reading of 2.64 volts DC is 0.0264 Volts AC ripple or about 0.030 Volts AC ripple or 30 millivolts AC ripple

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                                      • GR3Y5H3ART
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Jan 2011
                                        • 146

                                        #59
                                        Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                                        i tried my best at soldering the Voltage Regulators but they were way harder for me

                                        bit the bullet and found a good deal for a working one for $40ish shipped

                                        it WORKS!

                                        now i have a Main Board (Voltage Regulators will most likely all need replacing and most likely is a non working board for parts) and a Power Supply for parts only since i tested soldering on it

                                        i will gladly ship either of these to someone who can use them if you cover the shipping

                                        thanks for everyone's help and only condition, Main Board is:

                                        3642-0272-0150 (5A) if your Main Board is different in those numbers, they are not interchangeable

                                        i.e. if your Main Board is 3642-0552-0150 (3E) or other varying numbers, it will not fit if your looking to directly replace but again, Board is probably only good for parts
                                        Last edited by GR3Y5H3ART; 11-16-2014, 08:34 PM.

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                                        • GR3Y5H3ART
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Jan 2011
                                          • 146

                                          #60
                                          Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                                          Main Board

                                          &

                                          Power Supply


                                          will put both on Craigslist and eBay next week, again pay for shipping and its yours
                                          Attached Files

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