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  • tibimakai
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jan 2012
    • 3680
    • USA

    #21
    Re: Vizio E422VA not turning on

    OK. I have supplied the 5V externally and the power supply shows 1.37A and the voltmeter 2.6V.
    It seems like the mainboard is pulling down the voltage. Both boards are doing the same thing, this is the weird part.
    I have tried disconnecting everything else going to the mainboard and the load does not change.
    I still have to check the resistance to the ground.

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    • hienton2
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 183

      #22
      Re: Vizio E422VA not turning on

      Did you check p.on from main. I doubt your second main is bad.

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      • tibimakai
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jan 2012
        • 3680
        • USA

        #23
        Re: Vizio E422VA not turning on

        I haven't yet, but since the standby is low, that can't be good.

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        • hienton2
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 183

          #24
          Re: Vizio E422VA not turning on

          Feel hot on any components on main?

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          • tibimakai
            Badcaps Legend
            • Jan 2012
            • 3680
            • USA

            #25
            Re: Vizio E422VA not turning on

            I didn't have time to check for heating parts, but PS_ON doesn't work and resistance from standby to ground is 2Kohm.

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            • tibimakai
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jan 2012
              • 3680
              • USA

              #26
              Re: Vizio E422VA not turning on

              The 5V standby voltage should be able to power a car 6V bulb? Without anything connected, it shows 5.17V.
              The power supply can't handle this bulb, it just drops to 0V.
              I think, that there is a "weak" part in the power supply and can't handle the main board.

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #27
                Re: Vizio E422VA not turning on

                It should be able to handle 5 Ohms Load (1A) without problem. Try heating the cap around the standby power supply section, especially the startup cap to see if will run properly.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

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                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • tibimakai
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 3680
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: Vizio E422VA not turning on

                  I will do that in the morning.
                  We are dealing here, with a surge.

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                  • hienton2
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 183

                    #29
                    Re: Vizio E422VA not turning on

                    I will make a modified circuit to make it works. must figure R1 R2 to make output
                    about 4v (on) 0v(off)
                    Attached Files

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: Vizio E422VA not turning on

                      That will invert the Active HI signal from the main board, the PS_ON signal must be >2V = ON, <1V = OFF. The output at the Collector is inverted from the Input at the Base.
                      I am not sure how the circuit is related to this thread. Also the signal is DC so you cannot put cap on the Base pin.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • hienton2
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 183

                        #31
                        Re: Vizio E422VA not turning on

                        Ok Budm. May be I am wrong here. It is an inverter a hi on p.o will make a low
                        out.I just want to make a higher voltage for his p.o from main board.As I think
                        his psu board is good.

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                        • tibimakai
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 3680
                          • USA

                          #32
                          Re: Vizio E422VA not turning on

                          I have reconnected all the wires into there connectors and plugged in all the connectors in there places.
                          Place the voltmeter into the ground and 5V standby and after plugging in, it shows 2.5V and (very)slowly creeps up. By heating the secondary capacitors and the ones before the standby transformer on the primary side, the voltage went up slightly faster. After a while, a white LED started to turn on brighter and brighter. It reached 4.3V after a long wait(had dinner).
                          The TV, still did not turn on.
                          The board in the picture is not my TVs board, I'm trying to point out the place, that seemed the most affected by the heat.
                          Attached Files

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: Vizio E422VA not turning on

                            I believe that cap in red circle and the other 2 close to it are part of start-up/running caps, just replace them will be faster to find out if they are bad or not, they should be replaced sooner or later any way as part of the caps kit.
                            What is the P/N of that 8-pin IC close to it?
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • tibimakai
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 3680
                              • USA

                              #34
                              Re: Vizio E422VA not turning on

                              Unfortunately, I don't have a 100uf/50V capacitor, only 25V. Need to place an order.
                              They use Elite capacitors in the PS, I have never heard about this brand.
                              Should I replace all of them?

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                              • Agent24
                                I see dead caps
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 4940
                                • New Zealand

                                #35
                                Re: Vizio E422VA not turning on

                                Probably a good idea, Elite aren't that great
                                "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                                -David VanHorn

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #36
                                  Re: Vizio E422VA not turning on

                                  Can I see the bottom side of the board? Also take the DC Voltage readings right at the two legs of those 3 caps, and also the P/N of that 8-pin SMPS IC next to the cap in red circle.
                                  Last edited by budm; 06-25-2014, 08:49 AM. Reason: NEXT
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • tibimakai
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Jan 2012
                                    • 3680
                                    • USA

                                    #37
                                    Re: Vizio E422VA not turning on

                                    Sorry about not providing enough info, I was busy in the last three weeks, I had a visitor at my place.
                                    Today, I will get everything that you have asked.

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                                    • tibimakai
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Jan 2012
                                      • 3680
                                      • USA

                                      #38
                                      Re: Vizio E422VA not turning on

                                      TV it's running, yeah!!
                                      I have replaced the circled capacitor(100uf/50V) and the orange one(330uf) after the transformer(in secondary part of the PS).
                                      I'm not sure now which fixed the problem, because the capacitor meter is not showing a constant value, but I'm suspecting the orange capacitor.
                                      At the bottom of the power supply where the capacitor is and the diode on a heating it's yellow, it runs to hot and dried out this capacitor. Capacitor meter shows a value around 157 out of circuitry and it should be 330uf.
                                      Easy fix.
                                      The problem is, that I have purchased a main board for $130 and is not needed.
                                      Thanks for the help.
                                      Attached Files
                                      Last edited by tibimakai; 06-25-2014, 10:50 PM.

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                                      • Agent24
                                        I see dead caps
                                        • Oct 2007
                                        • 4940
                                        • New Zealand

                                        #39
                                        Re: Vizio E422VA not turning on

                                        Good to hear!
                                        "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                                        -David VanHorn

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                                        • gtoira
                                          New Member
                                          • Mar 2015
                                          • 2
                                          • USA

                                          #40
                                          Re: Vizio E422VA not turning on

                                          I have this same problem exactly, but changing the caps made no difference. For tibimakai: Do you still have that board you bought and do you want to sell it? I don't know how to contact you or how this forum works. My email is iragoodberg at hotmail. Let me know how I can discuss my issue with you.

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