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  • gabik111
    ORD spotter
    • Apr 2011
    • 142
    • USA / Poland

    #1

    Sony Bravia KDL-46V4100 power off itself

    Hi guys.
    I got tv set Sony Bravia KDL-46V5100 that powering off itself. This is random shut down. Sometimes it works long sometimes 3-5 minutes. I entered to service menu and found that T-Con board has 15 errors and backit 3 errors. After reset errors tv was working some time and then shut off. Then I checked error log again and t-con board failed. Like month ago it shut off only backlit and after that it was difficult to turn it on so I reset it by remove main plug for half an hour.
    In this case looks like t-con board does not working properly. Is this common issue of this model? I found some reviews that this series have faulty LCD's too so my question is : is the t-con biard bad or LCD panel failed?
    Please advice and also where is a good place to buy working t-con board if so.
    Thanks for any help.
    Gabe
    Laptops and computers repair.
  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46V4100 power off itself

    Did you already try re-seating the LVDS cable on the T-CON side and on the main board side?
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • gabik111
      ORD spotter
      • Apr 2011
      • 142
      • USA / Poland

      #3
      Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46V5100 power off itself

      Not yet. I'm planning to do it before buy anything. Also will use isopropyl alcohol to clean connectors. Thanks for reply.
      Last edited by gabik111; 04-01-2014, 07:26 PM.
      Laptops and computers repair.

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      • gabik111
        ORD spotter
        • Apr 2011
        • 142
        • USA / Poland

        #4
        Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46V4100 power off itself

        Solved. Cleaning and reseating LVDS cables did not change anything. Replaced t-con board solved problem. Tv works as new. Thanks everyone for help.
        Laptops and computers repair.

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        • rustytierod
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2014
          • 81
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46V4100 power off itself

          Having the exact same problem, is there anyway to diagnose the tcon?

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          • heavymachines
            Badcaps Legend
            • Mar 2011
            • 1028
            • United States

            #6
            Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46V4100 power off itself

            Read the op it says something about going into service menu and there it tells you it is bad it has ability to self test tcon.... Need to figure out how to get to service menu.





            Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hnrODX50Go
            Last edited by heavymachines; 03-25-2017, 08:31 PM. Reason: details

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            • heavymachines
              Badcaps Legend
              • Mar 2011
              • 1028
              • United States

              #7
              Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46V4100 power off itself

              Also try reseating LVDS...

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              • rustytierod
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2014
                • 81
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46V4100 power off itself

                Cannot get TV on for more than couple seconds, 2 seconds of which there is back light with blank screen.

                I tried disconnecting the LVDS cable at TCON while screen was blank as suggested somewhere else with no disturbance in blank image. Is this indication of bad panel?

                Also, if I disconnect the two connectors to the inverter and LVDS and power on, I get the same thing, no back light blank screen of course. Could the power supply be defective as well as the panel?

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                • dskall
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Oct 2016
                  • 2905
                  • usa

                  #9
                  Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46V4100 power off itself

                  Need good clear sraight on pictures of back of tv with cover off and each board.

                  Need voltages from connector that goes from power supply board to main board. Will need pin#-pin label-Pin voltage in standby-Pin voltage when pushing power button and picture of connector on power supply board.
                  Format:
                  Pin# - Pin Label - Pin Voltage standby - Pin voltage power on
                  1 - XXXXXXX - XXv - XXXv
                  2 - XXXXXXX - XXXv - XXXv
                  3 - XXXXXXX - XXXv - XXXv
                  4 - etc.
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                  • rustytierod
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 81
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46V4100 power off itself

                    It's a 46V5100

                    1 - REG 12V - 0v - 11.9v
                    2 - REG 12V - 0v - 11.9v
                    3 - REG 12V - 0v - 11.9v
                    4 - REG 12V_GND - 0v - 0v
                    5 - REG 12V_GND - 0v - 0v
                    6 - REG 12V_GND - 0v - 0v
                    7 - UNREG_15V_GND - 0v - 0v
                    8 - UNREG_15V_GND - 0v - 0v
                    9 - UNREG_15V - 0v -15v
                    10 - UNREG_15V - 0v - 15v
                    11 - STBY 3.3V - 3.3v - 3.3v
                    12 - AC_OFF_DET - 3.3v - 3.3v
                    13 - POWER_ON - 0v - 3.38v
                    Last edited by rustytierod; 04-22-2017, 12:19 PM.

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                    • dskall
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Oct 2016
                      • 2905
                      • usa

                      #11
                      Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46V4100 power off itself

                      Is tv actually shutting down or are the backlights turning off. Your voltages suggest that tv is on. Backlights may just be shutting off. See any image on screen with flashlight?
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                      • rustytierod
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 81
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46V4100 power off itself

                        I get back light for a few seconds. Hear relay click and turns off then on again. Any attempt to unplug the t-con does not result in disturbance of image. However with the t-con and inverter disconnected the TV still power cycles. It definitely turns off and then on again

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                        • rustytierod
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 81
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46V4100 power off itself

                          On second inspection I noticed this raised cap on main, apologies as I'm having trouble with my upload software

                          Last edited by rustytierod; 04-22-2017, 12:38 PM.

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                          • dskall
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Oct 2016
                            • 2905
                            • usa

                            #14
                            Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46V4100 power off itself

                            What is voltage on main cap?
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                            • rustytierod
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 81
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46V4100 power off itself

                              Getting about 864

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                              • dskall
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Oct 2016
                                • 2905
                                • usa

                                #16
                                Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46V4100 power off itself

                                Typo? not possible
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                                • rustytierod
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Sep 2014
                                  • 81
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46V4100 power off itself

                                  Whoops I meant 390 on, 163 standby. See my previous post with smd caps.
                                  Last edited by rustytierod; 04-22-2017, 02:11 PM.

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                                  • dskall
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Oct 2016
                                    • 2905
                                    • usa

                                    #18
                                    Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46V4100 power off itself

                                    They do look bulged. I would replace.
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                                    • rustytierod
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Sep 2014
                                      • 81
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46V4100 power off itself

                                      Can I substitute leaded? Correction it is not power cycling just turns off once back light shows for 2 seconds.
                                      Last edited by rustytierod; 04-22-2017, 02:45 PM.

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                                      • dskall
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Oct 2016
                                        • 2905
                                        • usa

                                        #20
                                        Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46V4100 power off itself

                                        I would replace caps first and go from there if it doesn't fix problem. Regular 220uf 25v will work
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