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  • Danny kikkert
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    • Aug 2024
    • 18
    • Nederland

    #1

    Dead dps-162kp-1 powerboard

    Hi everyone,

    I have a dps-162kp-1 runtka932wjqz powerboard wich has no power at all on the cold side.
    I replaced ic7903, r7900, R7902, C7901, d7950.
    Checked the diodes around the chip and also the caps.
    On the ic pin 5 no voltage, pin7-8= 315V
    On the T7901 pin 1-4 no voltage, pin 2-3=315V
    Anybody have any idea where to look further?

    Any help is welcome
    Thanks Danny from holland
  • Answer selected by Danny kikkert at 09-10-2024, 04:01 AM.
    Danny kikkert
    Member
    • Aug 2024
    • 18
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    Originally posted by R_J
    Check the resistance of IC7903 pin 4 to 3, if it is not shorted, there may be a possible fault with ic7902 ac brown-out ic you might try removing J7018 near @5 and see if you get any vcc on pin 5 of ic7903, If you look at the datasheet you will see the startup vcc is generated by the ic internally and charges C7907
    In post #3 I said to replace C7918, that should have been C7907

    and as stated above, they may be fake ic's
    Did you mean to remove the @5 on the photo?, pin 4 to 3 is not shorted, the caps 7918 and 7907 are fine I checked them with an esr meter and multimeter.

    Greetings dannny

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    • Diah
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2013
      • 6346
      • Germany

      #2
      once i faced dead dps-162kp after repairing all parts on primary it remain dead.. then after taking the main transformer outside the circuit i found there are cut between the coil and standing pins.

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      • R_J
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jun 2012
        • 9518
        • Canada

        #3
        The A6069H gets the vcc startup voltage on pin5 from an internal startup cell inside the ic, so you either have a short on pin5 or the new ic is bad, also replace C7918
        Pin 5 must have at least 15.3vdc for the ic to start

        Why did you replace r7900, R7902, C7901, d7950 ? were they bad, as that would give an idea what may have happened
        Last edited by R_J; 08-31-2024, 08:07 PM.

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        • nomoresonys
          Badcaps Legend
          • Jan 2013
          • 12085
          • U.S.

          #4
          Maybe check out D7907.

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          • Danny kikkert
            Member
            • Aug 2024
            • 18
            • Nederland

            #5
            Originally posted by R_J
            The A6069H gets the vcc startup voltage on pin5 from an internal startup cell inside the ic, so you either have a short on pin5 or the new ic is bad, also replace C7918
            Pin 5 must have at least 15.3vdc for the ic to start

            Why did you replace r7900, R7902, C7901, d7950 ? were they bad, as that would give an idea what may have happened
            The r7900 was blown, R7902 gave bad reading, the C7901 wasn't blown, but replaced (wanted to check out of cirquit, but fell on the ground and lost it some where in my barn) d7950 was shorted. Yesterday I replaced the ic with new one. Nothing changed.

            Cap 7918 and D7906 did look fine in circuitry, I Wil remove them and check them later on

            Thanks for the reply

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            • lotas
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jan 2016
              • 4474
              • Russia

              #6
              The photo shows that the STR-A6069H is not the original (relabeling), but a fake.
              Attached Files

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              • nomoresonys
                Badcaps Legend
                • Jan 2013
                • 12085
                • U.S.

                #7
                Does appear to be a fake, I don't recall that 5 in the real ones, where did you get it?

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                • R_J
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 9518
                  • Canada

                  #8
                  Check the resistance of IC7903 pin 4 to 3, if it is not shorted, there may be a possible fault with ic7902 ac brown-out ic you might try removing J7018 near @5 and see if you get any vcc on pin 5 of ic7903, If you look at the datasheet you will see the startup vcc is generated by the ic internally and charges C7907
                  In post #3 I said to replace C7918, that should have been C7907

                  and as stated above, they may be fake ic's
                  Last edited by R_J; 09-01-2024, 05:19 PM.

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                  • Danny kikkert
                    Member
                    • Aug 2024
                    • 18
                    • Nederland

                    #9
                    Originally posted by nomoresonys
                    Does appear to be a fake, I don't recall that 5 in the real ones, where did you get it?
                    I don't know it for sure, I thought ebay

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                    • Danny kikkert
                      Member
                      • Aug 2024
                      • 18
                      • Nederland

                      #10
                      Originally posted by R_J
                      Check the resistance of IC7903 pin 4 to 3, if it is not shorted, there may be a possible fault with ic7902 ac brown-out ic you might try removing J7018 near @5 and see if you get any vcc on pin 5 of ic7903, If you look at the datasheet you will see the startup vcc is generated by the ic internally and charges C7907
                      In post #3 I said to replace C7918, that should have been C7907

                      and as stated above, they may be fake ic's
                      Did you mean to remove the @5 on the photo?, pin 4 to 3 is not shorted, the caps 7918 and 7907 are fine I checked them with an esr meter and multimeter.

                      Greetings dannny

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                      • Danny kikkert
                        Member
                        • Aug 2024
                        • 18
                        • Nederland

                        #11
                        Originally posted by Danny kikkert

                        I don't know it for sure, I thought ebay
                        I just ordered new ones, just in case. Now from a shop in Germany.

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                        • Davi.p
                          Hobbist Tech
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 4276
                          • Italy - Milan

                          #12
                          Hi, about what R-J says, that IC7903 has startup current on pin 5, sound strange to me, i have not searched datasheets, based on photos, i see that Pin 5 takes current only from aux winding of transformer, usually those type of chips takes the startup from the primary winding of transformer, after the normal current on pin 5, i suggest Danny to check the original IC7903 for short on pins 1,8, if there is, check the R7907, the pink one near the big PFC inductor, it must be opened.. replace it and test the board, preferably with lamp in series..

                          PS: i see no signs of counterfeit, you can use the actual one for me..
                          Last edited by Davi.p; 09-11-2024, 05:04 PM.

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                          • Danny kikkert
                            Member
                            • Aug 2024
                            • 18
                            • Nederland

                            #13
                            Originally posted by Davi.p
                            Hi, about what R-J says, that IC7903 has startup current on pin 5, sound strange to me, i have not searched datasheets, based on photos, i see that Pin 5 takes current only from aux winding of transformer, usually those type of chips takes the startup from the primary winding of transformer, after the normal current on pin 5, i suggest Danny to check the original IC7903 for short on pins 1,8, if there is, check the R7907, the pink one near the big PFC inductor, it must be opened.. replace it and test the board, preferably with lamp in series..

                            PS: i see no signs of counterfeit, you can use the actual one for me..
                            Thanks, I always test with a lamp in series, I desolderd most components in that area and tested them. They tested fine.

                            On the transformer I get B+ voltage on pin 2-3, but on pin 1-4 nothing, the trafo also has no shorts.

                            On the cirquitry of ic 7902 also everything tested fine but also there is no voltage.

                            Is it possible that the voltage needed for that circuit comes from ic 7801?


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                            • nomoresonys
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                              • Jan 2013
                              • 12085
                              • U.S.

                              #14
                              Any update on this??

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                              • Danny kikkert
                                Member
                                • Aug 2024
                                • 18
                                • Nederland

                                #15
                                Originally posted by nomoresonys
                                Any update on this??
                                Today I received new ic, I'll keep you updated

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                                • Danny kikkert
                                  Member
                                  • Aug 2024
                                  • 18
                                  • Nederland

                                  #16
                                  so ive installed the new ic7903, nothing! i also noticed a shorted diode D7903.
                                  i gues the transformer is dead​

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                                  • R_J
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Jun 2012
                                    • 9518
                                    • Canada

                                    #17
                                    Why would the transformer be dead? did you replace the shorted diode and see if the supply works? D7903 is a 15 volt zener diode NZX15B.
                                    Last edited by R_J; 10-26-2024, 05:33 PM.

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                                    • Davi.p
                                      Hobbist Tech
                                      • Sep 2009
                                      • 4276
                                      • Italy - Milan

                                      #18
                                      Yes,.replace diode and replace completely transformer solder

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                                      • Danny kikkert
                                        Member
                                        • Aug 2024
                                        • 18
                                        • Nederland

                                        #19
                                        Originally posted by R_J
                                        Why would the transformer be dead? did you replace the shorted diode and see if the supply works? D7903 is a 15 volt zener diode NZX15B.
                                        idd replaced the diode with ann original.
                                        my electronics knowledge is a little poor so i guess that the te transformer have to deliver some voltage to pin 5 on the chip. but there is none!
                                        or should the cip deliver voltage to the transformer?
                                        on pins 2 and 3 i have normal voltage. on 1-4 none. when icheck with multimeter pins 1 and 4 have continuity.

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                                        • Davi.p
                                          Hobbist Tech
                                          • Sep 2009
                                          • 4276
                                          • Italy - Milan

                                          #20
                                          What model of tv we are talking of? Where do you got the chip? Is probably a fake , scrached surface.. try a different source an don't get the cheapest..

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