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  • nomoresonys
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    • Jan 2013
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    #21
    Originally posted by Diah

    as lotas said. they will be high when PS_PN reach the PSU....
    but because you had the issue at PSU.. then need to put the PSU alone on the table... and use stepdown circuit to have from 8.5V 3.3V and fed it to PS_ON... to be sure the PWM working and the vlaue will go high to 12 24V
    Interesting Diah, I would like to know how to do this also.

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    • Diah
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      • Feb 2013
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      #22
      Originally posted by nomoresonys

      Interesting Diah, I would like to know how to do this also.
      there are ready step down circuit less than $5 with regulator R to adjust the out put ... or do it yours self 3.3V regulator Transistor and 2200 uf cap 25V on the out put pin and GND ... same to 3.3V regulator which found on CH314 for example but we need one strong to handle currents
      Last edited by Diah; 08-07-2024, 12:20 PM.

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      • nomoresonys
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        #23
        Originally posted by Diah

        there are ready step down circuit less than $5 with regulator R to adjust the out put ... or do it yours self 3.3V regulator Transistor and 2200 uf cap 25V on the out put pin and GND ... same to 3.3V regulator which found on CH314 for example but we need one strong to handle currents
        Thank you sir.

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        • Henke
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          • Oct 2022
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          #24
          Originally posted by Diah

          as lotas said. they will be high when PS_PN reach the PSU....
          but because you had the issue at PSU.. then need to put the PSU alone on the table... and use stepdown circuit to have from 8.5V 3.3V and fed it to PS_ON... to be sure the PWM working and the vlaue will go high to 12 24V
          Ok, now I connected only psu board and 3.3v from my bench supply to PS_ON. 8,6V rises to 12.55v as expected 👍 but the 24V_A pin (MB connector) also have 12.55V. I don't now what's happening there? Seems only to be separated by a few inductors from the 12V potential.

          But can we now confirm that the main board is the issue?

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          • Henke
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            #25
            Originally posted by lotas
            Schematic
            Do you have the schematic for the main board as well?

            Or do I need to buy a new one as I don’t get the PS_ON signal to psu?

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            • William1967
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              • Nov 2017
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              #26
              Originally posted by Henke

              It's flashing very rapidly. It's impossible to count. But first 3 ast and then pause and then around 40 very rapidly. Then it starts over.

              i tried to film in slow motion and count. its around 40, but still hard to count.
              When the red led on the front is flashing very fast the TV is in t-con error, with a small piece of software that error can be deleted and the tv will start.

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              • Henke
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                #27
                Originally posted by William1967

                When the red led on the front is flashing very fast the TV is in t-con error, with a small piece of software that error can be deleted and the tv will start.
                Ok, can you please explain little bit more in detail 👍

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                • William1967
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                  #28
                  What is there to explain, a Philips oled tv the tv goes into t-con protection if an error is "seen" that is panel related. This can already be due to dirty cables or cable connections, you can clean these with compressed air and IPA.
                  A thin line in the dispaly also could be a culprit.
                  To remove the t-con error you need special software, this is a small 20kB file that overrules the error.

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                  • nomoresonys
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by William1967
                    What is there to explain, a Philips oled tv the tv goes into t-con protection if an error is "seen" that is panel related. This can already be due to dirty cables or cable connections, you can clean these with compressed air and IPA.
                    A thin line in the dispaly also could be a culprit.
                    To remove the t-con error you need special software, this is a small 20kB file that overrules the error.
                    Now THIS is some interesting stuff.

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                    • Henke
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by William1967
                      What is there to explain, a Philips oled tv the tv goes into t-con protection if an error is "seen" that is panel related. This can already be due to dirty cables or cable connections, you can clean these with compressed air and IPA.
                      A thin line in the dispaly also could be a culprit.
                      To remove the t-con error you need special software, this is a small 20kB file that overrules the error.
                      About the software I meant

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                      • Henke
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                        #31
                        Originally posted by William1967
                        What is there to explain, a Philips oled tv the tv goes into t-con protection if an error is "seen" that is panel related. This can already be due to dirty cables or cable connections, you can clean these with compressed air and IPA.
                        A thin line in the dispaly also could be a culprit.
                        To remove the t-con error you need special software, this is a small 20kB file that overrules the error.

                        Here is the picture over the mb. No voltage on the
                        caps that goes to usb etc.

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                        • William1967
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                          #32
                          I always use a USB with control led to see if there is activity.

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                          • Henke
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                            #33
                            Originally posted by William1967
                            I always use a USB with control led to see if there is activity.
                            Used a usb tester now. Activity when turning on the mains for a few seconds, after that nothing.

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                            • Diah
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                              #34
                              search the forum. i posted binary file to remove the protection sos for Philips OLED

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                              • Henke
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                                #35
                                Originally posted by Diah
                                search the forum. i posted binary file to remove the protection sos for Philips OLED
                                it started up now. I downloaded a software with a usb stick. Thanks for all the help!

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                                • Diah
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                                  #36
                                  Originally posted by Henke

                                  it started up now. I downloaded a software with a usb stick. Thanks for all the help!
                                  you welcome

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                                  • nomoresonys
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                                    #37
                                    So what did you need to do, just put the an update on the usb stick or did you have to get the binary file to remove protection or what?

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                                    • Henke
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                                      #38
                                      Originally posted by nomoresonys
                                      So what did you need to do, just put the an update on the usb stick or did you have to get the binary file to remove protection or what?
                                      I put a small NVM.eed file on the stick and loaded it in usb port 1. As William wrote, the tv probably got into a T-con protection, and that file overruled it. so the fault is probably still there but have to try it little bit more to se if i notice something with the picture.

                                      But is the TV still safe to use with that kind of solutions??

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                                      • Diah
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                                        #39
                                        yes tits safe , if there any at future issue with Cells.. there are Fuses on T-CON driver boards will monitor the EVDD currents.

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                                        • nomoresonys
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                                          #40
                                          Thanks for clarification.

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