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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #61
    Re: Logik l32digb20

    Sorry for not clarifying, the BLON and DIM are the green and brown wires going to inverter board.

    BLON: >2V on, <1V off, 1V~2V can't tell.
    DIM: 0~3V, with 0V indicating 10% intensity and 3V indicating around 100% intensity.

    It's odd that you can't access menu, wonder if the supply voltages are unstable enough to cause the main board to "crash" if you will.
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    • flocko
      Badcaps Legend
      • Nov 2012
      • 1121
      • uk

      #62
      Re: Logik l32digb20

      So the 1117 ADJ that was reading Pin 1=0.0 is now Pin 1=1.23
      Pin 2=4.97 Pin 2=2.49
      Pin 3=5.16 Pin 3=5.15
      and the BM 1084 ADJ Tom was right you had back to front 3 2 1 so all look ok

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      • sordids999
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        • May 2013
        • 2158
        • uk

        #63
        Re: Logik l32digb20

        hi tom the green is 0.05 Volts and the brown is 5.04 Volts but im now only getting one flashing backlight
        with reference to the user menu once the backlight is constantly flashing all im getting on the screen is just a LOGIK logo quickly then the screen will just flash

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #64
          Re: Logik l32digb20

          Hmm - if possible see if you can get back to the original flashing...
          Because the readings are now pointing towards a bad main or PSU...!
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          • sordids999
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            • May 2013
            • 2158
            • uk

            #65
            Re: Logik l32digb20

            right at the moment i cant get the backlight to flash constantly it keeps going into standby now after one flash of the backlight,so ill keep trying but if i unplug the cable to the invertor board im getting 3.50 Volts brown 5.15 Volts green

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            • sordids999
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              • May 2013
              • 2158
              • uk

              #66
              Re: Logik l32digb20

              tom i managed to get the backlight to flash constantly green cable 4.5 volts brown cable 4.8 volts

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              • tom66
                EVs Rule
                • Apr 2011
                • 32560
                • UK

                #67
                Re: Logik l32digb20

                Looks like it's the main board or power board then. Given the variation, maybe main board. I'm confused about the Vregs and would say try replacing the one Flocko suggests - but not certain as it seems to be OK.
                You could try jumpering the backlight signal if you have a pair of 100 to 470 ohm resistors?
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                • sordids999
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                  • May 2013
                  • 2158
                  • uk

                  #68
                  Re: Logik l32digb20

                  what color marking are the resistors i have loads of spares laying around ?

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                  • tom66
                    EVs Rule
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 32560
                    • UK

                    #69
                    Re: Logik l32digb20

                    You can use colour code calculator
                    http://www.digikey.com/us/en/mkt/cal...resistors.html
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                    • sordids999
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                      • May 2013
                      • 2158
                      • uk

                      #70
                      Re: Logik l32digb20

                      ok whats next if i find some tom ?

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                      • tom66
                        EVs Rule
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 32560
                        • UK

                        #71
                        Re: Logik l32digb20

                        You'll need three. My error.

                        You can jumper the PS ON to 5V standby, turning PSU on (main board disconnected.) 24V should come up and be stable, but backlight should not light.

                        Then jumper BL ON and DIM to 5V run, turning backlight on.
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                        • sordids999
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                          • May 2013
                          • 2158
                          • uk

                          #72
                          Re: Logik l32digb20

                          Ok tom searched around but cant find any sorry so whats my next option

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                          • tom66
                            EVs Rule
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 32560
                            • UK

                            #73
                            Re: Logik l32digb20

                            You would really need to get some - you can try random board swapping...
                            You can buy them from CPC (free delivery, pack of 50 around £1) or Maplins.
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                            • sordids999
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                              • May 2013
                              • 2158
                              • uk

                              #74
                              Re: Logik l32digb20

                              ok tom i have a maplins by me just ask for 100 to 470 ohm resistors?

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                              • sordids999
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                                • May 2013
                                • 2158
                                • uk

                                #75
                                Re: Logik l32digb20

                                http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/metal-film...resistor-m100k

                                they ok tom ?

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                                • tom66
                                  EVs Rule
                                  • Apr 2011
                                  • 32560
                                  • UK

                                  #76
                                  Re: Logik l32digb20

                                  These..
                                  http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/metal-film...resistor-m470r

                                  It's probalby better to get the 100 pack. Keep some spares for future use.
                                  http://cpc.farnell.com/_/mcf-0-25w-4...20This%20Range

                                  Pack of 100 for 49p + VAT, free delivery. Hard to beat that. Will take a few days.

                                  While you're at it, you could order the LDOs in case - they're pretty cheap
                                  http://cpc.farnell.com/texas-instrum...63?Ntt=tlv1117 (33p - 3.3V type)
                                  http://cpc.farnell.com/texas-instrum...117/dp/SC08267 (44p - adj)

                                  Maybe best to consult with Flocko on exact parts he replaced.
                                  Last edited by tom66; 02-24-2014, 06:00 AM.
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                                  • sordids999
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                                    • May 2013
                                    • 2158
                                    • uk

                                    #77
                                    Re: Logik l32digb20

                                    ok tom thanks ill go get some and ill try and get hold of flocko to find out what exactly i need to order ref the LDOs

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                                    • flocko
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                                      • Nov 2012
                                      • 1121
                                      • uk

                                      #78
                                      Re: Logik l32digb20

                                      Hi i can only tell you what i changed and that was the 3.3 regulator and the adjustable one that is above it, so looking at the board left hand side you have one right in the bottom corner then above that the 1117 3.3v this i replaced then above that an 1117 adj i also replaced,take some more reading on the regs with the inverter lead un plugged (BLon+dim) from the Av board and then with it plugged in , as i got a little lost as they seemed to change from the first time you took them, but i think you have a better understanding of them now

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                                      • sordids999
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                                        • May 2013
                                        • 2158
                                        • uk

                                        #79
                                        Re: Logik l32digb20

                                        Ok the readings are the same as before and thats with the Blon and the Dim unplugged from the avboard
                                        Last edited by sordids999; 02-24-2014, 09:53 AM.

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                                        • flocko
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                                          • Nov 2012
                                          • 1121
                                          • uk

                                          #80
                                          Re: Logik l32digb20

                                          so all plugged up with the backlights flashing the voltages on the regs stay the same ?well all you can do is swap those regs out and keep you fingers crossed, you have changed the inverter board that did not work,you have a good 24V to the inverter, but the BL on and dim go down when plugged in to the inverter,as the backlight On and dim are generated from the Av it has to be bad regulators.i will also keep my fingers crossed for you.i forgot to say i still have the set i repaired here as it has not been collected but i dont think pulling that apart will help.

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