JVC lt-32hg35e (Vestel) blinking LED

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  • unimatrix93
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Oct 2021
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    #1

    JVC lt-32hg35e (Vestel) blinking LED

    Dear forum,

    I'm stuck with this old TV unit.
    PSU: 17PW04-1
    MB: 17MB62-1
    Symptoms:
    - Blue LED constantly blinking when connected to AC.
    - Only sigh of life is beeping when touching the capactive buttons on the front.

    Diagnostics so far:
    Checked the PSU output voltages:
    12V present
    5V present altought its only around 4.2V
    3V is present measured 3.4V.

    I check TP 202 which is for the short circuit protection: 0.606V on diode mode

    Since I met with some vestel models before with similiar symptoms I tried to flash U158 with different bin files.
    Sadly nothing changed, the led were blinking the same altough I'm not sure if the bins I tried were for these exact model.

    Does anyone have some tips or matching bin file for this unit?

    Thank you!
  • yokoono
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Apr 2010
    • 481

    #2
    Try:
    Attached Files

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    • unimatrix93
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      • Oct 2021
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      #3
      Originally posted by yokoono
      Try:
      Thank you,

      Flashed it on but sadly same results.
      Constantly blinking led.

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      • yokoono
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Apr 2010
        • 481

        #4
        It means that the problem is in nand or it is a hardware problem.​

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        • Diah
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          • Feb 2013
          • 6357
          • Germany

          #5
          could be led BL issue

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          • unimatrix93
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            • Oct 2021
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            #6
            Originally posted by Diah
            could be led BL issue
            I disconnected everything from the board, so only the PSU - MB - IR control panel is connected. Yet it still do the same.
            The PSU has a audbile chirping sound when connected to power.

            Maybe there is a problem on the PSU, every voltage are present on output but 5V is a bit low.

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            • unimatrix93
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              • Oct 2021
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              #7
              I found the schemtics of the power board and it looks like 24V is missing from PL205 (MB connector output) and 5V is missing on PL305 (Backlight inverter connector).
              Attached Files

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              • vinceroger69
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                • Mar 2012
                • 6714
                • uk

                #8
                Originally posted by unimatrix93
                I found the schemtics of the power board and it looks like 24V is missing from PL205 (MB connector output) and 5V is missing on PL305 (Backlight inverter connector).
                you may have to jump some pins to get the missing voltages if your just bench testing the psu (im not sure which pins though)

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                • unimatrix93
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                  • Oct 2021
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by vinceroger69

                  you may have to jump some pins to get the missing voltages if your just bench testing the psu (im not sure which pins though)
                  What is wierd is that it looks like the 24v rail is disconneted on purpopse. Yet the schematics (both the PSU and the mainboard mentions it for the 32inch model)
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                  • vinceroger69
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                    • Mar 2012
                    • 6714
                    • uk

                    #10
                    can you take some pictures of the top and bottom sides of your psu and upload them thanks

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                    • unimatrix93
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                      • Oct 2021
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by vinceroger69
                      can you take some pictures of the top and bottom sides of your psu and upload them thanks
                      Sure,
                      Attached Files

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                      • Diah
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 6357
                        • Germany

                        #12
                        seem you didn't understand my post#5 yours set just 32 take the screen out and there you will find the issue at LED BL

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                        • vinceroger69
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                          • Mar 2012
                          • 6714
                          • uk

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Diah
                          seem you didn't understand my post#5 yours set just 32 take the screen out and there you will find the issue at LED BL
                          As diah ritely says yes remove screen and check the backlights (98% of my repairs lately have just been failed backlights)

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                          • unimatrix93
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                            • Oct 2021
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Diah
                            seem you didn't understand my post#5 yours set just 32 take the screen out and there you will find the issue at LED BL
                            Sorry, I just removed the display and checked the backlight.

                            Backlight LEDs seems to working fine, however they light up in sections with my led tester.

                            This tv has edge backlight.

                            Maybe I should check with my bench PSU too?

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                            • EazyBone
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                              • Jun 2023
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                              #15
                              Take picture of lights when lit. Sometimes to blinding to see one is dim or out when they close together on edgelit maybe

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                              • Diah
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                                • Feb 2013
                                • 6357
                                • Germany

                                #16
                                if the edge LED are double LED then there are zener diode build in.. if it get open or short PSU turn off but the tester light them on...
                                test each with DMM in diode mode

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                                • unimatrix93
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                                  • Oct 2021
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Diah
                                  if the edge LED are double LED then there are zener diode build in.. if it get open or short PSU turn off but the tester light them on...
                                  test each with DMM in diode mode
                                  I took out the backlight modules and tested each led diodes one-by-one with my PSU and with my DMM in diode mode. The LEDs are 6V and the voltage drop in diode mode were 0.775V so I guess they are fine.
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                                  • vinceroger69
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                                    • Mar 2012
                                    • 6714
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by unimatrix93

                                    I took out the backlight modules and tested each led diodes one-by-one with my PSU and with my DMM in diode mode. The LEDs are 6V and the voltage drop in diode mode were 0.775V so I guess they are fine.
                                    Can you power each strip seperatly and see what each strip is using voltage and amps wise

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                                    • unimatrix93
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by vinceroger69

                                      Can you power each strip seperatly and see what each strip is using voltage and amps wise
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                                      My bench PSU only do 30V/5A maximum. However I can measure the voltage of the 3 segments with my tester.
                                      I can turn on the segments one by one by touching the black probe to the 3 test points on the board.
                                      Each segments uses 90-91V.
                                      I test the other 3 board in a minute.

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                                      • unimatrix93
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                                        • Oct 2021
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by vinceroger69

                                        Can you power each strip seperatly and see what each strip is using voltage and amps wise
                                        All of them uses the same voltage.

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