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  • soog35
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    #81
    Re: Z50PJ240 Powers on then back off clicks but no picture

    What should that diode read?

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    • tw2005
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      #82
      Re: Z50PJ240 Powers on then back off clicks but no picture

      Originally posted by soog35
      visually it looks fine but I get 00.7 on that resistor.
      Then it should be the same across the diode then D304, they're in parallel to each other. Where did 266 come from then.

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      • tw2005
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        #83
        Re: Z50PJ240 Powers on then back off clicks but no picture

        Originally posted by soog35
        What should that diode read?
        In diode mode could be o.5-0.7 . Which one are you probing and I'll tell you mine.

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        • soog35
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          #84
          Re: Z50PJ240 Powers on then back off clicks but no picture

          Checked the diode in diode mode and the resistor in ohms
          Last edited by soog35; 10-31-2013, 02:45 AM.

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          • soog35
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            #85
            Re: Z50PJ240 Powers on then back off clicks but no picture

            testing the YSUS
            grd to VS is 3.37
            grd to VA and grd to 5v starts out about that but starts dropping
            don't see 15 v
            What is yours?

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            • tw2005
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              #86
              Re: Z50PJ240 Powers on then back off clicks but no picture

              Help me here, put some units in like ohms or kohms (K) or Mohms(meg) or is it in diode mode?

              If Vsus to gnd is 3.37 ohms on the ysus connector, it's stuffed or shorted?

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              • soog35
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                #87
                Re: Z50PJ240 Powers on then back off clicks but no picture

                Mohms

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                • soog35
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                  #88
                  Re: Z50PJ240 Powers on then back off clicks but no picture

                  What should it be?

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                  • tw2005
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                    #89
                    Re: Z50PJ240 Powers on then back off clicks but no picture

                    If Mohms then that's what i expect, Mine's about 3 meg vsus, 4meg Va and 5v is not steady but 1.5meg or so. They're not short, that's all I was concerned about.

                    So buffers not shorted, ysus power in not shorted, probably all you can establish apart from the zsus power in from the ysus.

                    All going well the PSU sorts it out, at least it won't be presented with a short cct when it comes on.

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                    • soog35
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                      #90
                      Re: Z50PJ240 Powers on then back off clicks but no picture

                      OK Thanks. Hope the PSU will fix it.

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                      • tw2005
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                        #91
                        Re: Z50PJ240 Powers on then back off clicks but no picture

                        On my ZSUS P1 - gnd

                        1,2. 15v - gnd 2.7meg
                        3,4 5v -gnd . 3.4meg
                        5. gnd
                        6. OE - gnd 2.8meg
                        7. Z-bias 4.7k
                        8. SLOP-CTRL 4.7k
                        9. Z.ER 4.7k
                        10. SUS_DN 4.7k
                        11. SUS_UP 4.7k
                        12. GND

                        connector P2
                        1,2 gnd

                        3 n/c

                        4,5 Vsus 13.5 meg - gnd

                        6 n/c

                        7,12 ER 5.8-6meg - gnd
                        Last edited by tw2005; 10-31-2013, 04:00 AM.

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                        • soog35
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                          #92
                          Re: Z50PJ240 Powers on then back off clicks but no picture

                          Can't figure out how to check that correctly. On P1 do put 1 lead on pin 5 and check all the other pins?

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                          • tw2005
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                            #93
                            Re: Z50PJ240 Powers on then back off clicks but no picture

                            yep, blk on gnd or an earthing lug nearby I used. Checked gnd to lug 0 ohms

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                            • soog35
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                              #94
                              Re: Z50PJ240 Powers on then back off clicks but no picture

                              I'll try again, seemed way off compared to yours.

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                              • tw2005
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                                #95
                                Re: Z50PJ240 Powers on then back off clicks but no picture

                                If the board is out flip it over the pin labels are underneath too. the legend on top for one of those is covered with a big blob of silicone so I could not read the pins that way.

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                                • soog35
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                                  #96
                                  Re: Z50PJ240 Powers on then back off clicks but no picture

                                  On P1
                                  1. 1.9meg
                                  2. 1.06meg
                                  3. nothing
                                  4. nothing
                                  7 through 11 1.22meg

                                  On P2
                                  on 4 and 5 2.5meg
                                  on 7and 12 2.1meg

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                                  • tw2005
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                                    #97
                                    Re: Z50PJ240 Powers on then back off clicks but no picture

                                    Originally posted by soog35
                                    On P1
                                    1. 1.9meg
                                    2. 1.06meg
                                    3. nothing
                                    4. nothing
                                    7 through 11 1.22meg

                                    On P2
                                    on 4 and 5 2.5meg
                                    on 7and 12 2.1meg
                                    Well that's interesting, so different except pins 1&2 on P1 are the same conection should read the same. I'll try mine again later, not an exact science doing this, no shorts that's a positive.

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                                    • soog35
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                                      #98
                                      Re: Z50PJ240 Powers on then back off clicks but no picture

                                      I may take the board off and check it again tonight, going on 7am here have to be at work at 8 so I don't have time right now. Been up all night checking this thing...lol

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                                      • tw2005
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                                        #99
                                        Re: Z50PJ240 Powers on then back off clicks but no picture

                                        Originally posted by soog35
                                        I may take the board off and check it again tonight, going on 7am here have to be at work at 8 so I don't have time right now. Been up all night checking this thing...lol
                                        Crazy stuff, but I've done silly things like that. It's just a TV, don't lose to much valuable sleep over it.

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                                        • soog35
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                                          #100
                                          Re: Z50PJ240 Powers on then back off clicks but no picture

                                          TW and TOM
                                          I got the new PSU but haven't installed yet. The D304 diode seems to be open, so this could be defective. I have a pic of the diode and a video link of me testing it. Do you guys think this would give me trouble if I install this as is. I don't want to mess up anything else. I still have a good diode I could replace it, or maybe I need to send it back. Does it look bad to you guys?


                                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-U5mcdy2kA
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