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  • Glitcher
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Mar 2013
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    #1

    L37 HDTV 37" Vizio LCD TV No Picture,

    Got a L37 HDTV Vizio. Plug in the power cable, the standby light turns on orange. Press the power button and standby light turns green but there's no picture, no backlight, not even a flicker.

    Tried using a flashlight, clicked the menu button to look but I don't think I saw anything on the screen, I looked real hard but seems to be nothing. No visible bulging caps.

    I haven't found any common problems with this model around. Anyone have any ideas?
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    Last edited by Glitcher; 07-16-2013, 07:30 PM.
  • capkid
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2010
    • 1339
    • United States

    #2
    Re: L37 HDTV 37" Vizio LCD TV No Picture,

    Do you have sound? Have you checked your PSU output voltages?
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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #3
      Re: L37 HDTV 37" Vizio LCD TV No Picture,

      I second that, check the ON/OFF (or ps_on) pin to see what DC voltage you are getting, and the 12v, 24v pins.
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • Glitcher
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        • Mar 2013
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        #4
        Re: L37 HDTV 37" Vizio LCD TV No Picture,

        Not sure if I have sound since I have no idea which input it is on.

        Theres 3 connectors on the PSU, the red wires go to each inverter board and the white wires go to the main board.
        Measuring while pressing the power button to "on"

        B - 3.03 V on both
        A - 2.51 V on both

        V1 - 5.27V
        V2 - 0.83V
        Remote - 2.95V

        V3 - All measures 0 V <-- seems theres no voltages going to the inverter boards, what does this mean?
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        Last edited by Glitcher; 07-16-2013, 09:08 PM.

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #5
          Re: L37 HDTV 37" Vizio LCD TV No Picture,

          "Remote - 2.95V" That is the PS_ON signal, it is OK.
          V3 is the 24VDC for inverter, which is 0V, bad.
          V2 is the 12V for audio amplfiers, bad.
          Both of above are bad.
          I will disconnect the both V3 cables from the board and see if you will get the 24VDC back, if not, more trouble shooting in the power supply board will be required.
          A and B are for BL_ON and Dimming signals for the inverter board, they are OK.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • Glitcher
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Mar 2013
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            #6
            Re: L37 HDTV 37" Vizio LCD TV No Picture,

            So I removed the connectors to the inverter boards, and I measured the V3 pins on PSU and still get 0V.

            So this an issue with the Power Supply?

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: L37 HDTV 37" Vizio LCD TV No Picture,

              Yes, the 12v/24v power supply section is not working. Did you inspect the board real close to see if you locate any blown/burnt components?
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • Glitcher
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Mar 2013
                • 673
                • USa

                #8
                Re: L37 HDTV 37" Vizio LCD TV No Picture,

                Nothing that's obviously seen. Guess I'll be checking components. Are there any particular?
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                Last edited by Glitcher; 07-16-2013, 10:28 PM.

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                • tom66
                  EVs Rule
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 32560
                  • UK

                  #9
                  Re: L37 HDTV 37" Vizio LCD TV No Picture,

                  I'd also try starting PSU with a resistor and main board disconnected. 470 ohm resistor from 5V standby to REMOTE should do the job.
                  Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                  For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                  • Glitcher
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                    • Mar 2013
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                    #10
                    Re: L37 HDTV 37" Vizio LCD TV No Picture,

                    Soldered a 470 resistor from V1 Standby to REMOTE. I plug in the TV and get nothing. Power doesn't come on.
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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: L37 HDTV 37" Vizio LCD TV No Picture,

                      I did not think anything will happen since your PS_ON is good per your post:
                      Remote - 2.95V
                      You can check the DC voltage right at the two legs of the main 450VDC filter cap to see if the PFC Voltage booster is working or not, it should have about 160VDC in standby, and about 380V when TV is ON.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • Glitcher
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 673
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                        #12
                        Re: L37 HDTV 37" Vizio LCD TV No Picture,

                        Measuring in standby I get 160.6V
                        Once I press power button and the standby led turns green and I'm getting 158.5V
                        Last edited by Glitcher; 07-17-2013, 09:56 AM.

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: L37 HDTV 37" Vizio LCD TV No Picture,

                          OK, so the PFC Voltage booster is not working, that will cause the 12v/24v to start up.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • tom66
                            EVs Rule
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 32560
                            • UK

                            #14
                            Re: L37 HDTV 37" Vizio LCD TV No Picture,

                            There is a common fault on this model with the PFC diode failing short which may cause your issue, fuse does not usually blow it just won't work.
                            Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                            For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                            • Glitcher
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                              • Mar 2013
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                              #15
                              Re: L37 HDTV 37" Vizio LCD TV No Picture,

                              Ah I see, so what exactly is the PFC voltage booster? Which is the PFC diode.
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                              Last edited by Glitcher; 07-17-2013, 10:01 AM.

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                              • tom66
                                EVs Rule
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 32560
                                • UK

                                #16
                                Re: L37 HDTV 37" Vizio LCD TV No Picture,

                                PFC voltage booster boosts the 160V DC to 400V DC, for several reasons.

                                There will be a diode, mounted to a heatsink, which forms part of this booster -- it will be on the primary side, and likely near the big cap. Diodes are marked "Dnnn" where nnn is a number.
                                Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: L37 HDTV 37" Vizio LCD TV No Picture,

                                  It looks like it has blown part in the PFC section.
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                                  Last edited by budm; 07-17-2013, 10:12 AM.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                  Comment

                                  • Glitcher
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Mar 2013
                                    • 673
                                    • USa

                                    #18
                                    Re: L37 HDTV 37" Vizio LCD TV No Picture,

                                    I think that burnt looking part was just old dried flux, gave it some cleaning and it still looks good.

                                    Just checked the PFC diode and MOSFET out of circuit and they both checked out good...
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                                    Last edited by Glitcher; 07-17-2013, 10:29 AM.

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: L37 HDTV 37" Vizio LCD TV No Picture,

                                      Look at the P/N of that PFC IC, it may be just a bad PFC CHIP.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                      Comment

                                      • Glitcher
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Mar 2013
                                        • 673
                                        • USa

                                        #20
                                        Re: L37 HDTV 37" Vizio LCD TV No Picture,

                                        The Part Number is

                                        N1653
                                        PDHD

                                        is there a way to test it
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