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    Hi Everyone,

    Background:
    I am new here, but I was hoping that somebody could help me. A few months ago, during a big storm, my mom and sister were watching TV when the power went out. When it came back on, their Vizio vw37l TV would not turn back on. Now that school is out (I will be starting college at IIT in the fall), I am back home and trying to get it fixed. They have already bought a new TV, but said that if I could fix it then I can have it. I am sort of good with electronics, but by no means a pro.

    What I have done so far:
    I read up about similar problems and without thinking ordered a new power supply (0500-0505-0420). I put that one in and nothing changed. Then I did some more research and came across this great thread (https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17997). I read it through which led me to think that my problem might also be a bad main board. I was hoping to get the opinion of someone else on what might be my problem before I go and purchase another board. I have done some basic voltage testing and my results can be found by the corresponding pictures below. Also, when I plug the TV in, the amber Vizio light on the front light lights up. When I push the power button on the side of the TV, the amber light turns white (like the TV is turned on). It stays that way for about 40 seconds and then the light turns back to the amber color.

    The entire back of the TV with the cover removed:


    The power supply:


    The main board:


    A mystery board (what does is do?):


    Close up of pin 1 and 2:


    Pin 1 voltage results:


    Pin 2 voltage results (the voltage on the last 5 pins decreases by .01 volts per second after the power is turned off):


    Finally, the volt meter that I have to work with (good but not the best, and I have no other electronics tools, except some spare resistors and leds):


    Hopefully this is enough information to get a good response. If you need more information, feel free to ask. I would like to learn what my problem is and don't mind doing a bunch of testing in order to learn about electronics. I also don't mind ordering parts, as long as they are not more expensive than buying a replacement TV.

    Thanks in advance!
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    #2
    Re: vizio vw37l turns on for a bit then turns off

    I forgot to mention that I tried many different input methods just to see what would happen, but the screen still remained black, never turned blue like it would if there was no input.

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      #3
      Re: vizio vw37l turns on for a bit then turns off

      One more update. I decided to plug it in again and now the TV does not turn off after 40 seconds like it used to do. Now the front light will turn white and stay that way until I press the power button and them it goes back to standby. Can someone help me?

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        #4
        Re: vizio vw37l turns on for a bit then turns off

        Do the A and B voltages going to the inverters stay the same, or do they change, when it goes off?
        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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          #5
          Re: vizio vw37l turns on for a bit then turns off

          The B and A pins stay constant, at 4.64 and 1.26 respectively. The A pin has changed voltages from what I posted a few days ago but I have not changed anything.

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            #6
            Re: vizio vw37l turns on for a bit then turns off

            This means the problem is on the inverter or with the bulbs.
            Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
            For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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              #7
              Re: vizio vw37l turns on for a bit then turns off

              How would I go about testing wither it is the bulbs or the inverter that needs replacing? Would it be obvious if I took the bulbs out?

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                #8
                Re: vizio vw37l turns on for a bit then turns off

                Your inverter is the "mystery" board. Can you take the metal shield off that, and show us a picture?
                Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                  #9
                  Re: vizio vw37l turns on for a bit then turns off

                  Just a heads up since your new to the innards of a TV.... Don not attempt to use your meter on the inverters while they are live, you need RF testers in hertz and those voltages in that inverter are deadly!

                  Tom will help you out with the diagnosis though

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                    #10
                    Re: vizio vw37l turns on for a bit then turns off

                    The inverter probably won't kill you, but it will happily kill your multimeter if you attempt to measure the output.
                    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                      #11
                      Re: vizio vw37l turns on for a bit then turns off

                      Thanks for the advice, I'll be careful. Here is a picture of the inverter board.

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                        #12
                        Re: vizio vw37l turns on for a bit then turns off

                        Test F1 fuse

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                          #13
                          Re: vizio vw37l turns on for a bit then turns off

                          The F1 fuse is good.

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                            #14
                            Re: vizio vw37l turns on for a bit then turns off

                            Check the other side of those blue and gold caps, any sign of blackening or bulging on the ends? The vent should be completely flat.
                            Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                            For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                              #15
                              Re: vizio vw37l turns on for a bit then turns off

                              Use this on the pink high voltage wire to see if the inverter even tries to fire up. 24VDC on those two caps?
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/bud...tml?sort=3&o=0
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/bud...tml?sort=3&o=1
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/bud...tml?sort=3&o=3
                              One condition that I do not think is right, is that the VIZIO logo turns amber, it should stay white, but that may be due to no signal input so it goes into standby.
                              Last edited by budm; 06-24-2013, 05:06 PM.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                #16
                                Re: vizio vw37l turns on for a bit then turns off

                                The caps look fine, no sign of bulging or blackening.

                                How should I go about testing the pink high voltage wire? Solder a paperclip to the end of the bulb and touch the pin to the pink wire pin?

                                The light is amber when I plug it in. When I press the power button the light then turns white, but the screen does not do anything. And when I press the power button again the light turns amber, like it is in standby.

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                                  #17
                                  Re: vizio vw37l turns on for a bit then turns off

                                  Just touch the metal connector where the pick wire is attached to, so touch the pin to the pink wire, then turn on the TV. If the inverter tries to start at all, you should see the lamp flashes real fast and go away, if nothing happen at all, then the inverter is dead. Do the test on both connectors, you will have to hold the glass section of the lamp.
                                  Last edited by budm; 06-24-2013, 06:37 PM.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    #18
                                    Re: vizio vw37l turns on for a bit then turns off

                                    I get no light when I touch the cfl to either of the connectors.

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                                      #19
                                      Re: vizio vw37l turns on for a bit then turns off

                                      You did cycle TV on and off with the lamp probe on the connector, right? By the way, do you get 24V on the two legs of those caps on the inverter board?
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                        #20
                                        Re: vizio vw37l turns on for a bit then turns off

                                        Yes, I did that and got nothing. I tested the legs of the caps and did not get 24V. Instead I got .3V on the positive terminal for both of them, and 0V on the negative terminal for both of them.

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