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  • selkov
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    • May 2013
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    #1

    Vizio VA26LHDTV10T -INTERMITTENT PICTURE

    I bought this back in 09. Never had issues until now. Sometimes when you power on the unit it works fine, sometimes it will take 1.5-2 min to power on, and then sometimes the sound comes on with no picture.

    Whatever scenario is active it will continue for 1-2 days then changes. That is to say for 2-3 days it will work fine, and then will either not give the picture or it may not power up quickly. I can power cycle the unit repeatedly to no avail. The best thing is to leave it alone for a day or two and then see what happens.

    I would like to fix it. But I have not the experience. I have the tools and ability so if anyone would be willing to mentor me on how to diagnose it and where to start that would be wonderful.

    -eds
  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #2
    Re: Vizio VA26LHDTV10T -INTERMITTENT PICTURE

    The first and most helpful thing to do is to take the cover off and get pictures of the layout and of each board, clear and in focus.
    Then we can help you locate any potential faults e.g. bad caps, or places to test.
    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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    • selkov
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      #3
      Re: Vizio VA26LHDTV10T -INTERMITTENT PICTURE

      Thank you for the quick response.
      I will do so tonight.

      However i have a question... in reading thru the vast number of posts on this unit. Is it accurate to say that this is most likely the inverter? Just wondering if 80% of the issues are the board maybe it is better to just change it = or check the NON inverter issues first?

      -Eds

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
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        #4
        Re: Vizio VA26LHDTV10T -INTERMITTENT PICTURE

        If you have no sound during the fault, even if only half the time the sound is missing, then it is unlikely to be the inverter at fault, as it only makes the backlight glow.
        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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        • selkov
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          Re: Vizio VA26LHDTV10T -INTERMITTENT PICTURE

          Here are the pictures.
          Please advice if any need to be retaken.
          Thanks.
          Attached Files

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          • JonathanAnon
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            • Jul 2012
            • 457
            • Ireland

            #6
            Re: Vizio VA26LHDTV10T -INTERMITTENT PICTURE

            Originally posted by selkov
            I bought this back in 09. Never had issues until now. Sometimes when you power on the unit it works fine, sometimes it will take 1.5-2 min to power on, and then sometimes the sound comes on with no picture.
            In this scenario can you see anything on the screen at all? If the inverter board is working you should see backlight, if the inverter board is not working you may be able to see the unlit picture on the screen if you look closely with a torch...

            Either way you need to focus on the PSU, it is most likely that at least one of the voltage supplies is not functioning properly. And this is most likely to be due to capacitor fatigue.



            I've marked the secondary side electrolytic capacitors. Normally the first step would be to check these.. What tools do you have to test with, if any?

            Given that it does power up after a few minutes, might be worth getting a hairdryer and putting it over these capacitors one by one (when the TV is slow to start up), to see if a bit of heat kicks one of the caps in to action. PLEASE MAKE SURE TO SET IT UP SAFELY IF YOU PLAN ON TRYING THIS.

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Vizio VA26LHDTV10T -INTERMITTENT PICTURE

              @JonathanAnon, off topic, what do you use to put those numbers on your pictures?
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • JonathanAnon
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Jul 2012
                • 457
                • Ireland

                #8
                Re: Vizio VA26LHDTV10T -INTERMITTENT PICTURE

                Originally posted by budm
                @JonathanAnon, off topic, what do you use to put those numbers on your pictures?
                Hi bud, I do a bit of graphic design for websites and the like, so I have a copy of Adobe Photoshop Elements 10 (this is the much cheaper version of Adobe Photshop Full, cost me about 100 euro). I use the text tool to create the numbers, and put a "stroke" effect of 3 pixels on them to give the black perimeter.

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Vizio VA26LHDTV10T -INTERMITTENT PICTURE

                  Thanks, Jonathan.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • selkov
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                    • May 2013
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                    #10
                    Re: Vizio VA26LHDTV10T -INTERMITTENT PICTURE

                    The screen starts out Black, then turns blue. Sometimes it is solid and sometimes it seems to be a gradient or lined in shades of blue. Also sometimes i see a faint outline of a letter box screen inside it.

                    When you say torch I assume you mean a flashlight. How am i to apply it to test the screen?


                    I have all the needed manual tools and soldering equipment.
                    I have available to me a Klein test Meter #Cl200.

                    http://www.kleintools.com/catalog/cl...ature-0http://

                    I have a hair dryer and a Heat gun. Which is better?

                    Before I start messing with the caps, could I test the PSU voltage to be sure it is wrong? If so at what points and what voltage am i looking for?

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                    • selkov
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                      #11
                      Re: Vizio VA26LHDTV10T -INTERMITTENT PICTURE

                      How shall I test the caps?

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                      • selkov
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                        Re: Vizio VA26LHDTV10T -INTERMITTENT PICTURE

                        I used the hair dryer and hovered closely over each cap for a min or so. No change.

                        What is my next step please?

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                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #13
                          Re: Vizio VA26LHDTV10T -INTERMITTENT PICTURE

                          Move on to the main board.
                          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                          • selkov
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                            #14
                            Re: Vizio VA26LHDTV10T -INTERMITTENT PICTURE

                            I did all the caps I could find and nothing happened.
                            However if I unplug the unit over night it works in the morning.
                            Then when it shuts down it does not come on again

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                            • tom66
                              EVs Rule
                              • Apr 2011
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                              #15
                              Re: Vizio VA26LHDTV10T -INTERMITTENT PICTURE

                              Do you mean capacitors on the main board? Personally I would be focusing on the larger processors -- the "chips" -- as they are more likely to cause this issue.
                              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                              • selkov
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                                #16
                                Re: Vizio VA26LHDTV10T -INTERMITTENT PICTURE

                                Yes, I was working with the caps. I am unknowable on how to proceed and am following the suggestions within this thread.

                                What shall I do now?

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                                • tom66
                                  EVs Rule
                                  • Apr 2011
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Vizio VA26LHDTV10T -INTERMITTENT PICTURE

                                  Ah, bummer -- Just noticed most stuff is under this shielding can.
                                  https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...6&d=1368569640

                                  Perhaps any way to easily remove that (does it have press-down tabs that you could pull up?)
                                  Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                  For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                  • selkov
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                                    Re: Vizio VA26LHDTV10T -INTERMITTENT PICTURE

                                    Are you referring to what lies under the metal plate?
                                    Ill Check.
                                    If I can get it open what shall I do?

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                                    • tom66
                                      EVs Rule
                                      • Apr 2011
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Vizio VA26LHDTV10T -INTERMITTENT PICTURE

                                      If you can remove it, focus the heat on the components inside it.
                                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                      • selkov
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Vizio VA26LHDTV10T -INTERMITTENT PICTURE

                                        Will do and advice.

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