Sony Bravia KLV-32-400A - negative picture with white haze

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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #41
    Re: Sony Bravia KLV-32-400A - negative picture with white haze

    It has solarized picutres like this one:
    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ng+LN37A550P3F
    See of it uses AUOPTO LCD panel.
    Voltage checking will tell you as Tom has suggested.
    Last edited by budm; 02-23-2014, 04:51 PM.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • guilhermemt
      Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 13
      • Brazil

      #42
      Re: Sony Bravia KLV-32-400A - negative picture with white haze

      Hello budm!

      It really seems to be the same problem! I'm going to try to test the voltages.

      Thank you!

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      • guilhermemt
        Member
        • Feb 2014
        • 13
        • Brazil

        #43
        Re: Sony Bravia KLV-32-400A - negative picture with white haze

        Hello!

        I took some measurements of my T-CON board Voltages :

        VGMA1: 15.42
        VGMA2: 15.19
        VGMA3: 12.77
        VGMA4: 11.74
        VGMA5: 10.98
        VGMA6: 10.42
        VGMA7: 10.05
        VGMA8: 9.77
        VGMA9: 9.61
        VGMA10: 14.78
        VGMA11: 7.35
        VGMA12: 6.93
        VGMA13: 14.5
        VGMA14: 5.21
        VGMA15: 6.73
        VGMA16: 4.48
        VGMA17: 3.91
        VGMA18: 3.63
        VGMA19: 3.16
        VGMA20: 2.43
        VGMA21: 0.39
        VGMA22: 0.28

        VCOM2: 6.33
        CONF2: 6.28
        VGL: -6
        AVDD: 16.04
        VIN_12V: 12.05
        V3D3: 3.30
        V1D8: 1.79
        VGHC1: 25.8
        LVDS_OUT1: 3.29
        AVDD_F: 16.06

        With this information it is possible to see anything wrong ? I attached a picture of the board too.

        Thank you!

        Originally posted by tom66
        Looks like LVDS/format fault, possibly main board. Maybe a little too sharp to be gamma. Hard to tell. Voltages will tell you where fault is.
        Attached Files

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #44
          Re: Sony Bravia KLV-32-400A - negative picture with white haze

          So yep, another gamma fault right there. You can see that spike in the middle causing a world of hurt. You should replace the t-con or the gamma chip, replacing the gamma chip will require good SMD soldering skills.

          So that's quite a few this week, amazing how many are failing.
          Last edited by tom66; 02-26-2014, 02:50 AM.
          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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          • T30M31
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2014
            • 58
            • USA

            #45
            Re: Sony Bravia KLV-32-400A - negative picture with white haze

            My Sony Bravia KDL-40Z4100 failed a few weeks ago with this same problem. I replaced the AS15G this past weekend and it solved the problem. My set was manufactured in July of 2008 and the failed AS15 had a 2008 date code, the same as the one in guilhermemt's TCON photo.

            It would be interesting to know how many of the AS15 chips that are failing now were manufactured in 2008.

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            • guilhermemt
              Member
              • Feb 2014
              • 13
              • Brazil

              #46
              Re: Sony Bravia KLV-32-400A - negative picture with white haze

              Hello,

              The chip that you replaced is the one on the top-right of the board ? (AS15-F)

              Thank you!

              Originally posted by T30M31
              My Sony Bravia KDL-40Z4100 failed a few weeks ago with this same problem. I replaced the AS15G this past weekend and it solved the problem. My set was manufactured in July of 2008 and the failed AS15 had a 2008 date code, the same as the one in guilhermemt's TCON photo.

              It would be interesting to know how many of the AS15 chips that are failing now were manufactured in 2008.

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              • T30M31
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2014
                • 58
                • USA

                #47
                Re: Sony Bravia KLV-32-400A - negative picture with white haze

                Yes the AS15-F chip at the top-right of the board is the same one that failed on my board. The voltage readings on my TCON board were very similar to yours.

                My board had an AS15-G chip which is functionally equivalent to the AS15-F.

                Good luck with the repair. Let us know how it turns out.

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                • guilhermemt
                  Member
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 13
                  • Brazil

                  #48
                  Re: Sony Bravia KLV-32-400A - negative picture with white haze

                  Ok!

                  i will have to find someone to do it for me. After that I 'll tell you.

                  But, one more question: how do I know that the measurements/voltages that I took aren't fine ? Is there any place where I can find the correct patterns ?

                  Thank you all!

                  Originally posted by T30M31
                  Yes the AS15-F chip at the top-right of the board is the same one that failed on my board. The voltage readings on my TCON board were very similar to yours.

                  My board had an AS15-G chip which is functionally equivalent to the AS15-F.

                  Good luck with the repair. Let us know how it turns out.

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                  • tom66
                    EVs Rule
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 32560
                    • UK

                    #49
                    Re: Sony Bravia KLV-32-400A - negative picture with white haze

                    See attached spreadsheet. Input them in and try it out.
                    Attached Files
                    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                    • guilhermemt
                      Member
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 13
                      • Brazil

                      #50
                      Re: Sony Bravia KLV-32-400A - negative picture with white haze

                      Cool!

                      With this spreadheet is easier to understand!

                      When I answer 22 on the 1st spreadsheet (How Many?) the cell I1 shows ####. If I consider only 18 as the model, it shows FAIL.

                      Anyway, in detailed results is possible to see that something is missing.

                      Thank you!

                      Originally posted by tom66
                      See attached spreadsheet. Input them in and try it out.
                      Attached Files

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                      • tom66
                        EVs Rule
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 32560
                        • UK

                        #51
                        Re: Sony Bravia KLV-32-400A - negative picture with white haze

                        Yep, that's a bug; I just fixed it. See this version.
                        Attached Files
                        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #52
                          Re: Sony Bravia KLV-32-400A - negative picture with white haze

                          I should test it first. This one works now.
                          Attached Files
                          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                          • guilhermemt
                            Member
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 13
                            • Brazil

                            #53
                            Re: Sony Bravia KLV-32-400A - negative picture with white haze

                            Good to see that you fix it.

                            I also noticed that in Detailed Results Spreadsheet, the cells B21 and B22 cotains the same value =$Input.B16 . Is it normal ?

                            At other cells the value is always the last cell.

                            Originally posted by tom66
                            Yep, that's a bug; I just fixed it. See this version.

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                            • tom66
                              EVs Rule
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 32560
                              • UK

                              #54
                              Re: Sony Bravia KLV-32-400A - negative picture with white haze

                              That was the bug I just fixed right now, see above.
                              With an incremental decrease from 16V to 0.01V, it should show "PASS".
                              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                              • guilhermemt
                                Member
                                • Feb 2014
                                • 13
                                • Brazil

                                #55
                                Re: Sony Bravia KLV-32-400A - negative picture with white haze

                                Good!

                                Unfortunately my T-CON continues failing even after yours fixes.

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                                • guilhermemt
                                  Member
                                  • Feb 2014
                                  • 13
                                  • Brazil

                                  #56
                                  Re: Sony Bravia KLV-32-400A - negative picture with white haze

                                  Problem solved after replacement of AS15-G at Sony Bravia LCD KLV-37M400A !

                                  Thank you guys !


                                  Originally posted by T30M31
                                  Yes the AS15-F chip at the top-right of the board is the same one that failed on my board. The voltage readings on my TCON board were very similar to yours.

                                  My board had an AS15-G chip which is functionally equivalent to the AS15-F.

                                  Good luck with the repair. Let us know how it turns out.

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #57
                                    Re: Sony Bravia KLV-32-400A - negative picture with white haze

                                    Thanks for the repair feedback.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • mtechall
                                      New Member
                                      • May 2014
                                      • 1
                                      • nepal

                                      #58
                                      Re: Sony Bravia KLV-32-400A - negative picture with white haze

                                      Can u plz tell me where should i check for voltage and what is the voltage range should be thanks
                                      I have a same problem plz tell me

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #59
                                        Re: Sony Bravia KLV-32-400A - negative picture with white haze

                                        mtechall: take good pictures of your T-CON so we can see the test points.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                        • bagel
                                          New Member
                                          • Jun 2014
                                          • 1
                                          • u

                                          #60
                                          Re: Sony Bravia KLV-32-400A - negative picture with white haze

                                          I have a Sony KDL-40Z4100/S . It has the white screen that winwin92 posted.

                                          What do you all suggest? I really love this tv.

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