Vizio VM60P HDTV10A No signs of life except speaker pop when unplugged

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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #161
    Re: Vizio VM60P HDTV10A No signs of life except speaker pop when unplugged

    How sure are you it is bad?

    List your regulators like this:

    U8, LD1117-33
    Pin 1 = 5.53V
    Pin 2 or Tab = 3.33V
    Pin 3 = 0.02V

    ^The above regulator is working correctly.
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    • heavymachines
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      • Mar 2011
      • 1028
      • United States

      #162
      Re: Vizio VM60P HDTV10A No signs of life except speaker pop when unplugged

      got to tell ya the regulators on laptop mobos etc all have different numbers from manufacture to another can't be standard numbering scheme. sheesh.

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #163
        Re: Vizio VM60P HDTV10A No signs of life except speaker pop when unplugged

        Originally posted by heavymachines
        got to tell ya the regulators on laptop mobos etc all have different numbers from manufacture to another can't be standard numbering scheme. sheesh.
        Yes there is a standard scheme.

        KA1117-33 = Korean Semiconductor, 1117 type, 3.3V output
        LM1117-25 = Linear Monolithic (National Semiconductor), 1117 type, 2.5V output
        LD1117-ADJ = ST Micro (Not sure how acronym derived), 1117 type, adjustable output

        see the pattern?
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        • heavymachines
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          • Mar 2011
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          #164
          Re: Vizio VM60P HDTV10A No signs of life except speaker pop when unplugged

          well this thing is not numbered like that at all, its labeled out like this...

          brand logo says ac with a half circle around it

          in the middle says 84-33 don't know if its a positive regulator but its 3.3 volt output i am sure.



          and on bottom its says 0536al dunno if radio shack will have it or not. still a greenhorn here but i am your student here lol, teach me what those mean,

          yes i see the pattern on your example but this one is throwing me off a little.

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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
            • 32560
            • UK

            #165
            Re: Vizio VM60P HDTV10A No signs of life except speaker pop when unplugged

            Radioshack won't sell them. I think half the store is dedicated to selling phones now.

            84-33 is probably a 1084 type regulator 3.3V output. What do the pins measure? Test each relative to chassis.
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            • heavymachines
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              • Mar 2011
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              #166
              Re: Vizio VM60P HDTV10A No signs of life except speaker pop when unplugged

              got 5 volts in 3.3 volts on tab top of chip and bottom pin reads zero zilch suppose to be 1.2 volts less then the 3.3. the regulator after that reads less and no output on bottom pin as well.

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              • tom66
                EVs Rule
                • Apr 2011
                • 32560
                • UK

                #167
                Re: Vizio VM60P HDTV10A No signs of life except speaker pop when unplugged

                No that only applies for adjustable regulators, ones with -ADJ in the part suffix. That regulator is A-OK. Check the others. If there is a U33 on the board it is essential you check it.
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                • heavymachines
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                  • Mar 2011
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                  #168
                  Re: Vizio VM60P HDTV10A No signs of life except speaker pop when unplugged

                  Originally posted by tom66
                  Radioshack won't sell them. I think half the store is dedicated to selling phones now.

                  84-33 is probably a 1084 type regulator 3.3V output. What do the pins measure? Test each relative to chassis.
                  yeah i agree, its nothing like it used to be.

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                  • tom66
                    EVs Rule
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 32560
                    • UK

                    #169
                    Re: Vizio VM60P HDTV10A No signs of life except speaker pop when unplugged

                    In the UK we have a similar store called Maplin, they still at least sell some components, but they are mostly useless. Go in there once in a while to look for something and never find it. Don't know why I bother...
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                    • heavymachines
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                      • Mar 2011
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                      #170
                      Re: Vizio VM60P HDTV10A No signs of life except speaker pop when unplugged

                      no u33 maybe i am blind but here is a pic of exact board, its not same board in that video you showed me. thankful your working with me on it.
                      Attached Files

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                      • vinceroger69
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                        • Mar 2012
                        • 6714
                        • uk

                        #171
                        Re: Vizio VM60P HDTV10A No signs of life except speaker pop when unplugged

                        next to c361 cap basicaly above blue connector bottom of board about 3 inches up and to the left
                        Last edited by vinceroger69; 09-27-2012, 01:25 PM.

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                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #172
                          Re: Vizio VM60P HDTV10A No signs of life except speaker pop when unplugged

                          See image.

                          Red devices are regulators.

                          List your regulators like this:

                          U8, LD1117-33
                          Pin 1 = 5.53V
                          Pin 2 or Tab = 3.33V
                          Pin 3 = 0.02V

                          (Pin 2 and tab are the same pin - test one or the other. There is no tab on some of the other regulators, so just test pin 2. And on some regulators there is no pin 2, so test tab.)

                          Green devices are fuses.

                          TV unplugged - meter on fuse on 200 ohms - should read 0 to 2 ohms. (2 ohms = accounts for meter lead resistance.)
                          TV stuck in standby - test voltage on each end - should be nearly the same both ends (could be 0V - that just means no power yet because it's stuck in standby.)
                          Attached Files
                          Last edited by tom66; 09-27-2012, 01:29 PM.
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                          • heavymachines
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                            • Mar 2011
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                            #173
                            Re: Vizio VM60P HDTV10A No signs of life except speaker pop when unplugged

                            Originally posted by vinceroger69
                            next to c361 cap basicaly above blue connector bottom of board about 3 inches up and to the left
                            that would be u30 and u6

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                            • vinceroger69
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                              • Mar 2012
                              • 6714
                              • uk

                              #174
                              Re: Vizio VM60P HDTV10A No signs of life except speaker pop when unplugged

                              u33 10 legged device not sure what it is though
                              glad your making progress with this

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                              • heavymachines
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                                • Mar 2011
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                                #175
                                Re: Vizio VM60P HDTV10A No signs of life except speaker pop when unplugged

                                with lower power board to main board plugged in...

                                u8
                                pin1 0.00v
                                pin2 0.00v
                                pin3 0.01v

                                u4
                                pin1 5.00v
                                pin2 3.30v
                                pin3 0.01v

                                u6
                                pin1 3.30v
                                pin2 1.81v
                                pin3 0.00v

                                u30
                                pin1 3.30v
                                pin2 1.50v
                                pin3 0.24v

                                u7
                                pin1 0.00v
                                pin2 0.00v
                                pin3 0.00v

                                u5
                                pin1 0.00v
                                pin2 0.32v
                                pin3 0.00v

                                u3
                                pin1 1.18v
                                pin2 0.00v
                                pin3 0.63v

                                u21
                                pin1 0.00v
                                pin2 0.00v
                                pin3 0.00v

                                u25
                                pin1 0.00v
                                pin2 0.00v
                                pin3 0.68v

                                fuse (f4) 5.00v both sides
                                fuse (f3) 0.62v both sides
                                fuse (f1) 0.00v both sides
                                all read 0.03 ohms

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                                • heavymachines
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                                  • Mar 2011
                                  • 1028
                                  • United States

                                  #176
                                  Re: Vizio VM60P HDTV10A No signs of life except speaker pop when unplugged

                                  lower power board to main board unplugged



                                  u8
                                  pin1 4.70v
                                  pin2 2.50v
                                  pin3 0.00v

                                  u4
                                  pin1 0.14v
                                  pin2 0.13v
                                  pin3 0.00v

                                  u6
                                  pin1 0.13v
                                  pin2 0.00v
                                  pin3 0.00v

                                  u30
                                  pin1 0.13v
                                  pin2 0.00v
                                  pin3 0.00v

                                  u7
                                  pin1 4.30v
                                  pin2 1.80v
                                  pin3 0.00v

                                  u5

                                  pin1 5.08v
                                  pin2 3.30v
                                  pin3 0.00v

                                  u3
                                  pin1 5.03v
                                  pin2 0.00v
                                  pin3 11.8v

                                  u21
                                  pin1 5.02v
                                  pin2 0.00v
                                  pin3 8.05v

                                  u25
                                  pin1 8.03v
                                  pin2 0.00v
                                  pin3 11.8v

                                  fuse (f1) 5.1 volts both sides
                                  fuse (f3) 11.8v both sides
                                  fuse (f4) 0.14 both sides

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                                  • heavymachines
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                                    • Mar 2011
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                                    #177
                                    Re: Vizio VM60P HDTV10A No signs of life except speaker pop when unplugged

                                    Originally posted by vinceroger69
                                    u33 10 legged device not sure what it is though
                                    glad your making progress with this
                                    ask tom what that is lol...yeah making progress slowly but surely thanks to tom and myself trying different things. do you have a tv like this one your working on?

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                                    • tom66
                                      EVs Rule
                                      • Apr 2011
                                      • 32560
                                      • UK

                                      #178
                                      Re: Vizio VM60P HDTV10A No signs of life except speaker pop when unplugged

                                      Part numbers on the chips?
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                                      • heavymachines
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                                        • Mar 2011
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                                        #179
                                        Re: Vizio VM60P HDTV10A No signs of life except speaker pop when unplugged

                                        u8

                                        6h1l
                                        17-25l

                                        u4
                                        84-33
                                        0538AL

                                        u6
                                        6h1l
                                        17-18l

                                        u30
                                        amc1117
                                        f06461

                                        u7
                                        84-18
                                        0553gl

                                        u5
                                        84-33
                                        0536al

                                        u3
                                        az7805t
                                        e1
                                        648j99

                                        u21
                                        az7805t
                                        e1
                                        648j99

                                        u25
                                        kia
                                        7808a p1
                                        634

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                                        • tom66
                                          EVs Rule
                                          • Apr 2011
                                          • 32560
                                          • UK

                                          #180
                                          Re: Vizio VM60P HDTV10A No signs of life except speaker pop when unplugged

                                          All regulators are OK, all fuses are good. I suggest you just swap the main board - possibly the all too common problem with firmware corruption or eeprom corruption.
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