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  • whitemus
    Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 35
    • United States

    #1

    Protron PLTV-32c won't power on

    I have a Protron PLTV-32c that won't power on. It has a standby light that is orange when it's first plugged in, and then turns red. I push the power button and it turns green for a few seconds, but nothing on the screen. The power supply and mainboard appear to be in good shape as far as the caps go. Any ideas on what I could check for?
  • Mad_Professor
    A Mech Warrior
    • Feb 2011
    • 1587

    #2
    Re: Protron PLTV-32c won't power on

    I have the 26" version of this tv.

    Grab a flashlight and shine it into the lcd and see if you can see an image. If you can then the problem is with the inverter and ccfl bulbs or power supplying the inverter.

    If you have a DMM and if comfortable doing it, I would recommend checking the voltages coming out of PSU, it should be labelled on the board what they supply.

    Also if you can, post clear focus pictures of the PSU and inverter.
    Last edited by Mad_Professor; 08-22-2012, 05:12 PM.

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    • whitemus
      Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 35
      • United States

      #3
      Re: Protron PLTV-32c won't power on

      I couldn't see anything with a flash light. I tested the voltage on the power supply, the only reading I could get was the 5v reading for the standby. 24v was reading .25 and the 16v was reading .25.

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Protron PLTV-32c won't power on

        Bad cap can look normal but can have high ESR.
        We need to find out if the power supply board is getting the PS_ON signal from the main board.
        Please post good, clear, focused pictures using an attachment function so we may be able to tell you the test points we will want you to test.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • whitemus
          Member
          • Oct 2011
          • 35
          • United States

          #5
          Re: Protron PLTV-32c won't power on

          Here is the main board.
          Attached Files

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Protron PLTV-32c won't power on

            Pictures of the Power supply board as a whole top and bottom, and close up of the connectors so we can see if they have any labels on them to identify the pin functions.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • whitemus
              Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 35
              • United States

              #7
              Re: Protron PLTV-32c won't power on

              Here is the Power Supply.
              Attached Files

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Protron PLTV-32c won't power on

                OK, CN3 connector pin with the label 'POWER' is the Power supply on input signal sent from the Main board which will turn on the 16/24V power supply circuits, it should have more than 3VDC at that pin with ref to the chassis ground. See if it has that voltage.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • whitemus
                  Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 35
                  • United States

                  #9
                  Re: Protron PLTV-32c won't power on

                  I am getting 0 on that pin. I get 5v from the two 5v pins.

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Protron PLTV-32c won't power on

                    Well, that means the main board is not sending the signal to turn on the 16/24V power supply, without that, you will not have 24V to run the backlights (backlights inverter also need backlights on signal from the main board), or sound (16V is for sound).
                    There are many regulator ICs on the main board. I need to see straight shot pictures of the main board.
                    Can we also see the whole TV to see how all the boards are connected.
                    Last edited by budm; 08-22-2012, 10:37 PM.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • whitemus
                      Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 35
                      • United States

                      #11
                      Re: Protron PLTV-32c won't power on

                      Here are some pics of the mainboard removed from the tv. On the pic of the whole tv, there is a gray box on the right. That is the tuner board. Just let me know if you think I need to take that out and get some pics of it too. If there is any specific parts of the main board that you need to see closer, just let me know. Thanks for you help!
                      Attached Files

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                      • selldoor
                        Slow Learner
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 7870

                        #12
                        Re: Protron PLTV-32c won't power on

                        Pictures are just not quite in focus - can you get them any clearer - good light
                        is the key. There re two brown blotches on the last picture - what is on the other side?
                        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                        • whitemus
                          Member
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 35
                          • United States

                          #13
                          Re: Protron PLTV-32c won't power on

                          The brown blotches appear to be some flux. The scraped right off when I picked at them. I'll upload some better pics in a min.

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                          • whitemus
                            Member
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 35
                            • United States

                            #14
                            Re: Protron PLTV-32c won't power on

                            Here is some better pics. I took them outside to get better lighting.
                            Attached Files

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                            • selldoor
                              Slow Learner
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 7870

                              #15
                              Re: Protron PLTV-32c won't power on

                              Ok its flux - but what is on the other side of the board
                              Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                              • whitemus
                                Member
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 35
                                • United States

                                #16
                                Re: Protron PLTV-32c won't power on

                                These circles are where the brown spots are on the back side of the board.
                                Attached Files

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                                • selldoor
                                  Slow Learner
                                  • Dec 2010
                                  • 7870

                                  #17
                                  Re: Protron PLTV-32c won't power on

                                  Hmm - nothing there then. Picture is much better thanks - can you do the back as well

                                  Here are the datasheets for the 3 big regulators
                                  Attached Files
                                  Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                  • Mad_Professor
                                    A Mech Warrior
                                    • Feb 2011
                                    • 1587

                                    #18
                                    Re: Protron PLTV-32c won't power on

                                    Originally posted by whitemus
                                    The brown blotches appear to be some flux. The scraped right off when I picked at them. I'll upload some better pics in a min.
                                    Originally posted by selldoor
                                    Ok its flux - but what is on the other side of the board
                                    Originally posted by whitemus
                                    These circles are where the brown spots are on the back side of the board.
                                    Those are un-drilled or un-used holes on the pcb, quite common.
                                    Also don't scrap/pick, you can easily break traces.

                                    Focus on the task at hand, we need to find out why the signal board is not sending the PS-ON to the PSU.

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                                    • whitemus
                                      Member
                                      • Oct 2011
                                      • 35
                                      • United States

                                      #19
                                      Re: Protron PLTV-32c won't power on

                                      Here's a better picture of the back.
                                      Attached Files

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                                      • selldoor
                                        Slow Learner
                                        • Dec 2010
                                        • 7870

                                        #20
                                        Re: Protron PLTV-32c won't power on

                                        Originally posted by Mad_Professor
                                        Focus on the task at hand, we need to find out why the signal board is not sending the PS-ON to the PSU.
                                        OK your Madness you talk him through it.
                                        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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