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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #41
    Re: Samsung PN58C7000 wont power up

    Originally posted by noahc72
    Ok, so a new main board should fix it then?
    I hope so - but there's the remote possibility it's shutting down because of some fault it is detecting. One check: Have you tried unplugging the side button board? A stuck button here could turn the TV off as soon as it turns on.
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    • noahc72
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 63
      • United States

      #42
      Re: Samsung PN58C7000 wont power up

      I'll try that. It's got these strange touch buttons along the bottom. I'll see if I can find the connection.

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      • noahc72
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 63
        • United States

        #43
        Re: Samsung PN58C7000 wont power up

        Do the buttons connect to the main board (where)? You can't get to the button without taking the tv further apart.

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #44
          Re: Samsung PN58C7000 wont power up

          Usually the buttons go to the main board. On some Samsung TVs they go through the IR board.
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          • noahc72
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 63
            • United States

            #45
            Re: Samsung PN58C7000 wont power up

            Looks like the lowest connector on the left side of the main board is for the buttons (among other things). I removed it and no change. I am ordering a new main board later and will let you know what happens. Thanks for all the help so far!

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            • noahc72
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 63
              • United States

              #46
              Re: Samsung PN58C7000 wont power up

              Got the new main board, installed and got the power on chime. However, there is no picture and no response when pushing menu on either the tv or the remote.

              Also, it powered on and off and played the chimes for both a few times and then would power on but not off. Just to see, i put the old main board in and it now powers on (but not off) also.

              What else is left? The logic board?

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              • tom66
                EVs Rule
                • Apr 2011
                • 32560
                • UK

                #47
                Re: Samsung PN58C7000 wont power up

                Originally posted by noahc72
                Got the new main board, installed and got the power on chime. However, there is no picture and no response when pushing menu on either the tv or the remote.

                Also, it powered on and off and played the chimes for both a few times and then would power on but not off. Just to see, i put the old main board in and it now powers on (but not off) also.

                What else is left? The logic board?
                The board before did not play the chime?

                Did you turn off the "Melody" option from the menu on your TV?

                Is the main board the -exact- replacement part (each digit must be correct... Samsung TVs are very picky about their main boards, often even different size screen boards won't work.)

                The logic card is the only possibility left.
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                • noahc72
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 63
                  • United States

                  #48
                  Re: Samsung PN58C7000 wont power up

                  I only mentioned the chime because that means that it actually turned on and was not stuck in that loop. it wasn't playing the chime before but it was supposed to.

                  I do see that the tv model number on the new board is missing an "a" at the end, but the part number is exactly the same. Trying to contact the place I got it from to make sure it's the right one.

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                  • noahc72
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 63
                    • United States

                    #49
                    Re: Samsung PN58C7000 wont power up

                    Tom66, do you know where to buy brand new Samsung parts?

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #50
                      Re: Samsung PN58C7000 wont power up

                      Originally posted by noahc72
                      Tom66, do you know where to buy brand new Samsung parts?
                      You may be able to call Samsung's Technical Support line and make an order for parts - but I've never done it myself. I suspect they may want only TV technicians to call the line, but it's worth a shot.
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                      • noahc72
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 63
                        • United States

                        #51
                        Re: Samsung PN58C7000 wont power up

                        I haven't heard from the place I bought from and I didn't think anything of this before, but the old board is blue and the new one is green, same exact part number though. Trying to find out if it matters.

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                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #52
                          Re: Samsung PN58C7000 wont power up

                          Originally posted by noahc72
                          I haven't heard from the place I bought from and I didn't think anything of this before, but the old board is blue and the new one is green, same exact part number though. Trying to find out if it matters.
                          Often the board colour indicates its type - newer Samsung TVs use blue main boards, green panel stuff (T-con on LCD, Logic/Ysus/Zsus on plasma) and white/beige for PSU. It probably indicates it was an earlier revision so it might be the problem. Did you pay via PayPal/card?
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                          • selldoor
                            Slow Learner
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 7870

                            #53
                            Re: Samsung PN58C7000 wont power up

                            Do you have to set the new board up in the service menu - panel size/ make
                            Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                            • noahc72
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 63
                              • United States

                              #54
                              Re: Samsung PN58C7000 wont power up

                              I used PayPal. They have to refund me anyway because they used the wrong tv model in the description. Looking for a blue one now.

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                              • noahc72
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 63
                                • United States

                                #55
                                Re: Samsung PN58C7000 wont power up

                                Seller swears up and down there's only one version of this board. I'm looking at 2 different ones right in front of me. Found a blue one. Hope it works.

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                                • noahc72
                                  Senior Member
                                  • May 2012
                                  • 63
                                  • United States

                                  #56
                                  Re: Samsung PN58C7000 wont power up

                                  While I'm waiting for the other main board, does anyone know about that troubleshooting flow chart posted earlier in this thread? It says if LED is normal to check SMPS voltages Vs, Va, Ve, Vset. Where are those?
                                  Last edited by noahc72; 05-22-2012, 11:38 AM.

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                                  • selldoor
                                    Slow Learner
                                    • Dec 2010
                                    • 7870

                                    #57
                                    Re: Samsung PN58C7000 wont power up

                                    Like you tested the PS-On if you look at the other connectors you may find them labelled similarly. If not just start at pin 1 and measure voltage on each pin.

                                    If your meter is autoranging just put on DC or if its not better satrt at 200vDC
                                    as some should be 75-100 v
                                    Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                    • tom66
                                      EVs Rule
                                      • Apr 2011
                                      • 32560
                                      • UK

                                      #58
                                      Re: Samsung PN58C7000 wont power up

                                      Vs and Va are on the main power connector from PSU.

                                      Vs is around 170 - 210V.

                                      Va is around 55 - 70V.

                                      Both are needed for the plasma panel to light.

                                      Vset etc. aren't so important - if they are missing picture will be there but very poor.
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                                      • noahc72
                                        Senior Member
                                        • May 2012
                                        • 63
                                        • United States

                                        #59
                                        Re: Samsung PN58C7000 wont power up

                                        Oddly, now that it's not stuck in that loop trying to power on the PS_ON looks correct ~5.25 steady with the original main board. Still no picture and you can't turn it on or off except by unplugging or plugging it in.
                                        Last edited by noahc72; 05-22-2012, 02:25 PM.

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                                        • noahc72
                                          Senior Member
                                          • May 2012
                                          • 63
                                          • United States

                                          #60
                                          Re: Samsung PN58C7000 wont power up

                                          The only place I see Vs or Va labeled is on the x/z board connections. Are those the ones to check?

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